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Old 09-28-2007, 04:02 PM
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1750GT is asking a very real question. Is this simply a Bertone coupe being built up to look like a GTAm or is there any real provenance.

Could the owner kindly let us know the serial number of the chassis or other specific facts.

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David, how could such a question even need to be asked when the initial photos of the car clearly show a stock coupe?
Regardless of what the chassis number may be, if it doesn't already have the homologated flares, engine, suspension, brakes and other parts that a GTAm actually consists of, then it can't possibly be or have ever been one from the begining.
It's a bit like seeing a Ferrari '250GTO project' and asking if it's a genuine one that didn't actually get the correct body and mechanicals put onto it originally............
Javito is obviously having a geat time with a few friends building a replica of a car of his dreams and good luck and much enjoyment to him.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:14 PM
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David, how could such a question even need to be asked when the initial photos of the car clearly show a stock coupe?
Regardless of what the chassis number may be, if it doesn't already have the homologated flares, engine, suspension, brakes and other parts that a GTAm actually consists of, then it can't possibly be or have ever been one from the begining.
It's a bit like seeing a Ferrari '250GTO project' and asking if it's a genuine one that didn't actually get the correct body and mechanicals put onto it originally............
Javito is obviously having a geat time with a few friends building a replica of a car of his dreams and good luck and much enjoyment to him.
Vince.
OK, Good luck and many happy motoring miles to Javito with his replicar.

David
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:31 PM
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David,

I see you made your way back onto the site.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:13 PM
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Hip, hip, hoorah !

Some mysterious spirit/gremlin between aol & the BB conspired to keep me off the web, drat !!!

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Old 09-30-2007, 10:44 AM
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this is engine(170 HP)
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Real or not real; that's the question

Looks like a great project and fun to drive!

But I have a question. In the pictures we see (what I think) a regular engine coming out of the car. The GTAm to my knowledge was equipped with an engine that has a narrow cilinderhead.

Any reflections on that?

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Old 09-30-2007, 09:36 PM
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Listen guy's, this is a GTV with fender flairs, that is it. I can see our friend is preparing this car for some racing, which is fantastic!Great idea but not a GTAm for the last time.

There are a host of Autodelta parts, suspension, (incl. totally different narrow angle head motor) that was fitted for real GTAm's. There was really only 12 cars sold from AR to AD for entry into the ETCC as AR factory cars. Truth is they were not really even sold to AD, as AD did not pay for the cars, AR basically provided the cars for modifications as factory race entries, but for official paperwork and records these serial numbers will show as sold to AD. These 12 cars will all have race history in the ETCC. (I just returned from Arese Archivo Storico and went over this topic with them). Now, private teams did purchase GTV's from AR and opted for the "full" GTAm options package, per the
OPC, Jim mentioned. AR, sent the cars to AD for modifications to be carried out. Cars were then delivered to customers. (Private team cars will also have race history and documetation, fyi). AD records show that a total of 40 cars received the "full" GTAm package, 12 of which were factory cars, rest were private team entries. I also believe the 40 number is generous, especially if you understand how AD operated back then. Other teams with regualr GTV's for Goup 1 and 2 did order parts from the OPC and had them fitted a la carte for racing(mainly suspenison components, exhaust, cams, seats, steering wheels, etc).. These cars were not considered GTAm's but were modified with true AD parts.

So, this thread looks like a fun project and it is great to see, but please realize this is by no means a "GTAm", but in the spirit of it all this is nice to see someone wanting to "visually" create and live his racing dream.

Moderator needs to move this thread to the GTV thread and off the GTA, GTAm, thread in my opinion. I look forward to following his progress with his project
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:51 PM
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Javito,

Can you tell us more about the motor and what kind of exhaust headers you have there?

Thanks for the photos and welcome to the site.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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Thank you for posting the chassis number, that should silence the curious ... now can they all relax and let Javito build his car .

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and he seems to be quite fast!
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:08 AM
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Hello:
The complete exhaust is IRESA (http://www.iresa-web.com/index.php?id=4).
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:32 AM
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That's a good looking car. Don't let all the purists get you down. Enjoy your project!
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