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09-10-2006, 08:53 PM
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GTAm project:How far should I cut the fender?
Hi ........about to start GTAM project.
The body shop guy ask me how far should they cut into the fender well . 
Anybody if you have a picture or info please advise.
Thank you in advance.
BTW: I already cut about 2 inches off from rear fender just to fit the wheels but not dare to cut any deeper. 
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09-11-2006, 12:51 AM
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Hi gowest, Are you planning to Rivet or Bond/blend your new fenders? I have rivetted mine , as per original ,If you are happy with your wheel to fender clearance as it is , fit the new fenders! Less work=less cost!!!Where did you get your GTam fenders from ? All the best with your project.... Ken
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09-13-2006, 10:37 PM
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Hi ken
The plan is to have the body shop fabricate the fender from metal.
They assist is bond blend and use fake rivet so that rust wouldn't be a problem.
Also where can I find 1:18 scale gtam model, try to search in ebay, and only 1:43 scale slot car show up. The guy who responsible for the body work have request for it, he said the model will made his work lot easier.
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09-14-2006, 12:08 AM
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Correct fibreglass fenders will never rust ...
Think of weight, and cut as required to minimalise the final cars weight IMO ... otherwise we are ricing these cars  
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GTAm fenders
Gowest-
I'm not clear from your post if you are doing a GTAm fender or a widened GTA fenderarch (see Italcarguy's White GTA)
If you have the full fiberglass GTAm fenders, then you would ultimately cut away most of the rear and front fenders (probably just below the crease line) and rivet the panels on. There are pictures in Alleggerita that show this cut out. It looks from your pics that you are looking to do the GTA arch, not the GTAm. If so, I can't give you advice on how much to cut
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09-16-2006, 02:15 AM
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John
I will be doing GTAm conversion. Don't have the fiber kits though, but will make one from sheet metal. Will check "Alleggerita" out. Thank. 
Can you please link me to that site incase I can't find them.
Here is some picture of the project.
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09-16-2006, 06:05 PM
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I'll try to get some scans from the book and post them. I remember seeing at least one picture of a GTAm without the widened flares mounted on that shows the cut away.
Also, all of this depends how historically correct you want to make the car. If you don't care too much about being exactlythe way the car was originally made, then I wouldn't sweat the details. Looking at the pictures above it looks like you may be cutting away too much at the top of the arch. I believe the original cars only cut away just below the horizontal crease that runs along the side of the car.
All of this depends on what molds you are using to make your panels. I have seen a few variations.
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09-25-2006, 07:34 PM
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Came back from the body shop yesterday. Took some picture of the over fender for comment. 
John T.
The car will not be historically correct.
The "cutting issue" is not important anymore.
The new issue is what variation of GTAm did I want.
I print bunch of GTAm pic for the body shop last week. After carefully looking at the picture I just notice that most ot them are different from each other.
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09-26-2006, 08:16 AM
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Love the wheels!!! And the car is looking good!
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10-12-2006, 05:15 AM
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This is how far the body shop guy decide to cut it. 
Is it too much
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They really do look identical to the fiberglass fenders, well done can't wait to see the end result. Any GTA-m wheels involved in your conversion???
After taking a closer look has their been too much material cut off in the front. Typically you leave the front intact and let the lower front end of the Gta-m fender wrap around, when combined with the 1750 euro turn signal lights, the fiberglass panel is usually one complete piece. just a thought, or maybe being a little concerned, the most important thing is to keep the original shape...
But i does look good!
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Looks really nice!
Question: Why steel and not fiberglass? I would think that for a race car weight is a bi issue and would then use fiberglass. Besides weight I would think that since the fiber ones are already done - why go with the trouble of steel?
They do look nice! Great job!
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10-12-2006, 07:49 PM
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Any GTA-m wheels involved in your conversion???
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Same reason, cause to order a set of GTAm fiberglass kits and import it to Bangkok Thailand, it is more expensive than to make one from steel.
Body shop rate here is lot cheaper than in the US.
The both left and right rocker panel was replace as well.
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10-13-2006, 03:06 AM
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Makes sense now.
Man even with some "relative" inexpensive (compared to some US stds) work from Mexico I could just not imagine this hole thing being cheapoer than getting the fiber ones. But if you consider shipping, duties, and still having to cut fenders and replace panels it may be close.
Your car looks very nice. Please keep us updated and send more pictures!!!
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5 lugs wheels nuts?
GOWEST, I noticed that your wheels are 5 lugs/holes?
And I think you are using BBS wheels or replicas why did you go for this conversion from 4 lugs to 5 lugs?
Appreciate if you can give us some details on this conversion.
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