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Hello All. I have a 2017 Giulia Q4 AWD that I purchased about 6 weeks ago. I love the car and it's beautiful inside and out BUT it is currently at the dealer and has been for 4 days now due to a engine surge issue, timing issue and electrical issue. The dealer point blank told me they have no idea what to do and are in communication with the engineers of the Giulia for some direction.

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You need to post your question on the Giulia Forum, Alfa Romeo Giulia Forum

Seems to be much more active re these cars
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Hello All. I have a 2017 Giulia Q4 AWD that I purchased about 6 weeks ago. I love the car and it's beautiful inside and out BUT it is currently at the dealer and has been for 4 days now due to a engine surge issue, timing issue and electrical issue. The dealer point blank told me they have no idea what to do and are in communication with the engineers of the Giulia for some direction.

Has anyone experience similar issues?
Sorry, no, I haven't taken delivery of my Giulia yet. I know how frustrating and disappointing things like this are, especially with a new car. AR is working on your issue and many others that you haven't experienced yet. Hopefully, you won't experience the others, ever. I've had a few issues with my 4C, and believe me, sometimes it seems like they will never get around to it. But, in the end, they did fix my 4C, every time, and now I have 26,000 miles on her and am glad I waited.

Your dealer, has to go through STAR on these matters. Believe me, your dealer is just as frustrated as you are. It's kind of early in the game for this, but you can call FCA and make a formal complaint. Not against your dealer, just in general. FCA will push STAR to do something a bit faster than STAR wants to do anything. I've always talked to my dealer before calling FCA.

Part of your new car warranty includes a loaner car while your Giulia is in the shop for warranty work. Did they offer you a loaner?



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You need to post your question on the Giulia Forum, Alfa Romeo Giulia Forum

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You beat me to it. I was going to suggest the same thing.

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I'll say this sounds odd. But, I think with this car (like many cars) the very first vehicles in that first year will have the most problems. Each new car I've bought has been at the end of its production cycle and I've never had issues.
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the giulia doesn't have a dip stick.
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Diesel and QV have. Even 2.0 turbo has. But it is mostly for dealership access.

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the giulia doesn't have a dip stick.
It's my understanding that the NA Giulia 2.0 does not have a dip stick. It should have an oil level gauge somewhere in the dash display.

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It's my understanding that the NA Giulia 2.0 does not have a dip stick. It should have an oil level gauge somewhere in the dash display.
Yes you are right. But dealers can check the level manually. Car should be placed on ramp, engine protection removed. Then the level should be measured by the specially ordered stick.

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Just FYI, 2.0 turbo does not have mechanical thermostat valve. 2.0 has two water circuits.
It has the high temperature circuit which is for engine block and head, engine oil, low pressure EGR, and heater. The low temperature feeds intercooler and turbocharger.

I would say 4C (which was initially engineered as Abarth) is really simple car compared to Giulia. Probably by mechanical and electrical level of engineering Giulia can be equal to 164 Q4 or Safrane Baccara.
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It's my understanding that the NA Giulia 2.0 does not have a dip stick.
When I was a young instrumentation engineer the old plant manager told me that the only instruments that he trusted were a dip stick and a mercury thermometer. He was only half joking!

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Hello All. I have a 2017 Giulia Q4 AWD that I purchased about 6 weeks ago. I love the car and it's beautiful inside and out BUT it is currently at the dealer and has been for 4 days now due to a engine surge issue, timing issue and electrical issue. The dealer point blank told me they have no idea what to do and are in communication with the engineers of the Giulia for some direction.

Has anyone experience similar issues?
Has this issue been resolved, yet???
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As a suggestion...swap out the computer and see if the issue resolves itself. You might be having a "lean" surge. This was a very common issue with the Spica system when it first came out in 1975 for smog issues. The car was so lean, it barely could get out of its own way. A cam retiming and a minor adjustment to the FI was all it needed to be resolved if I recall from 40 years ago. My guess is that the new car is set so lean for the standards this is the issue. FCA might be worried about the cars not meeting emissions from the factory.

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