How fast can you Pull an Engine?

[gprocket]

The first time I pulled a 1750 out of by '69 spider it took two full days slowly and carefully bagging and tagging everything. The '76 2L took about the same amount of time but we weren't pushing it. The '71 1750 took about a day and a half but it seemed a breeze since we had some experience.

I really wanted to see how fast we could get one out with experience and the rights tools at our disposal. The '73 GTV took just shy of 5 hours for two guys. We got hung up on a couple of items (exhaust nuts and passenger side motor mount) and cheated on a couple of others (I am 0 for 4 on tach cables - cut another one). We spent very little time hunting for tools and hardly any time standing around staring at the engine trying to figure something out. We were probably a little more reckless than we should have been but didn’t break anything – no broken bolts or stripped threads.


Out it comes at 12:45 EDT

We probably could have shaved some time off here and there but I can’t imagine getting to 8 manhours with my skill set.

So what’s a world class time? I’m not talking stripped down race car. I mean stockish Alfa.

- Rich D.

’69 1750 Spider
’71 1750 Spider
’73 GTV 2000
’76 2000 Spider
All in pieces…

[papajam]

Never actually timed an Alfa engine removal but my record for pulling a 1750 GTV trans, including console, is 47 minutes.

My quickest engine pull that I did time was on a VW Beetle; 13 minutes.

[gprocket]

Heck, the console alone took us over 47 minutes!

[super1750]

When I put my 1750 in the giulia about 6 weeks ago we started pulling the 1300 at about 9:30 AM and it was out by about 12:15. After lunch, at about 1:30, we started putting in the 1750. We were held up for about 2 hours because the rear block vent needed a cut out in the bell housing and we also had to lengthen the carb support stay. The motor was in and ready to run by about 9:30PM. We were then held up again for a good hour because the oil pressure wouldn't build up - I had run the oil into an oil cooler adapter with plugs instead of the cooler which was the equivelent of a dead end. At about 11:15 the motor was purring like a tom cat! That makes about 26 man hours, which certainly isn't a record breaking time, but I would have preferred taking my time over two or three days and really enjoying it. After spending the whole winter rebuilding the motor as carefully and lovingly as I could it was a shame to rush things in the end. Everything worked out fine though and we didn't damage anything, so I guess it was all right. BTW: now have about 800 km's on the motor and am enjoying every meter!!
regards
Bob

[gprocket]

The plan is to install the rebuilt 1750 in the GTV tomorrow. I think it's going to take a full day but we will see. I am using the GTV to break in the 1750 while the 2L is getting a new clutch and the Spider engine bay gets new paint. Then the 1750 comes out of the GTV and in to the Spider and engine bay of the GTV gets the same treatment. Should be interesting...

- Rich D.

[genericwood]

My '74 GTV takes a lot longer, but I've pulled the engine in my 750 Giulietta in less than 3 hours alone. That's about what the GTV race car takes.

Erik

[Clayton105]

Not a Giulia, but the other week I finished a head prep for a fiend's '83 GTV 2.0 Targa Tasmania car and said I would "help"..."them" install "the head". I arrived at 9 in the morning, to find a running car that no work was done at all, an assembled bottom end (no sump or timing case) in the boot. To boot, only my mechanically brain-dead mate (but great driver) to help, the owner of the car nowhere to be seen.

By 8:00 pm that night, I had removed the engine, stripped the ancillaries, finished reassembling the new engine, including sorting out a bunch of things and hiccoughs, reinstalled the ancillaries back on the engine and shoved it back in the car. Had it running and carbs sorted over a beer before dinner!

OK, I also took an hour out of that to take my mate down to vote, have lunch and bullsh*t a bit to eachother. And we are not talking about a proper workshop here, just a garage with a jack and engine crane.

Pity, the car went really well in the Targa until they crashed on the third day...

[Nipper]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayton105 Pity, the car went really well in the Targa until they crashed on the third day...

[oz3litre]

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajam My quickest engine pull that I did time was on a VW Beetle; 13 minutes.

[slyalfa]

out is easy. in takes a bit longer.
With the spider it is easy I would say a 1 hour if I was rushed. but I wlll never pull the tranny with the motor again. out it worked but when I went to go back I could not get the tranny to tilt as far as I needed and ended up damaging a lot of bodey work. with the trany in first then the the motor it is super simple and no risk of body damage. but takes a extra 15min or so.
most of my time happens on the install end as I end up going over everything. retaping all the wires. puting on new connectors etc. so going in seems to take days.. heck it seemd to take a hour just to get the clutch to pump up. ended up pumping in the DOT 3 from the slave bleader untill it came out in the master cyl. tank.

[velocedoc]

I have pulled just the engine in under an hour. (air tools really help) A whole engine with trans runs another hour because of the center console, drive shaft etc. Putting it back in is another story, as it takes lots of preparation to clean things up.

[Gordon Raymond]

When I was young and limber , I raced my Giulia with either a 1600 or 1300 engine depending on how I felt about the competition vs my skill . I could swap engines and transmissions at the track in about 3 hours working alone with the car on an open bottom trailer . This was an easy car to work on . Now, older and wiser I would guess maybe a week or two....
Gordon Raymond

[gprocket]

I need to drink more Red Bull. You guys are kicking my butt!

[Slapbass]

I can pull a Porsche 914 engine in less than 20... But then again, who couldn't. You just have to remove some bolts and let it hit the ground.

[Alfacliff]

if you pull in front of a train, it dont take too long. not recomended way for engine removal tho, looses a lot of hardware.
cliff