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Good. So all that's settled. Wrap it up and get her ready for suspension tuning this spring!!
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:48 AM
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The last drawing looks "funny". What happened? One thing is the heart Grill shape is more traditional - doesn't look right on the Demon. The grill on the drawing above with the lights looks better. The center part anyway.
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74 Spider "Isabel" traded for "Cecilia" Thanks Ric!
(Look at Isabel now: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/spid...tml#post565887 !!)
1979 Sport Sedan Alfamatic. Traded to Wilbur for a very sweet bicycle - thanks!
All the parts cars chopped up or sent to Larry...l
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Old 10-11-2008, 02:18 AM
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Good. So all that's settled. Wrap it up and get her ready for suspension tuning this spring!!
Tell me about it. This is gonna be one LONG Winter wait.

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Old 10-11-2008, 02:28 AM
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The last drawing looks "funny". What happened? One thing is the heart Grill shape is more traditional - doesn't look right on the Demon. The grill on the drawing above with the lights looks better. The center part anyway.
Yeah I noticed that just after I posted it. Instead of deleting it, I jumped over to the current draft and added the 2 new vents there. At least this way you can compare the traditional Grille to the DEMON'S tweaked one.

Schedule/weather permitting I MAY be able to get the DEMON tuned after the body mods are complete and prior to the long paint & body hibernation. Fingers crossed. If it's at least dry outside, I'll throw on a heavy jacket, and have a friend shoot the NOISE!!!

Two new vents. Yea or neh.

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Old 10-11-2008, 03:11 AM
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I say Yea, but they are not quite there yet. Another thing: does the front bumper have to project so far forward? I didn't realize it until you posted that shot with the trad. grill, where there is a little angle on the view. That "front deck" looks awkward from here.
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79 Spt Sdn. "Griswold" and never-driven '74 Spider sold to Harry Riley
74 Spider "Isabel" traded for "Cecilia" Thanks Ric!
(Look at Isabel now: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/spid...tml#post565887 !!)
1979 Sport Sedan Alfamatic. Traded to Wilbur for a very sweet bicycle - thanks!
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Old 10-11-2008, 08:30 AM
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I say Yea, but they are not quite there yet. Another thing: does the front bumper have to project so far forward? I didn't realize it until you posted that shot with the trad. grill, where there is a little angle on the view. That "front deck" looks awkward from here.
Adjusting the bumpers means relocating the bumper shocks inward. The front shocks can go a little further back inside the tow pulls on a fabbed bracket. The rear probably requires a little more work as they are mounted directly to the body. Performing such a change will then require shortening the both bumper's edges to match the fender openings. Since I still have to realign the rear's ends, I could explore this route.

Here's another take on the new intakes with the bumper pushed in - borrowed the main intake lines.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:45 AM
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imo the bumpers MUST be pushed in...tho i think i said that several pages back ..i belive your answer was "if hit youd be screwed" well with this much modding your going to be screwed anyway

these new smaller vents..im just not feeling a "match" on there design just yet....this second draft on them is MUCH worse of a fit to the demon imo....the of the bumper side vents first draft felt "close" to being right
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:23 PM
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Late Comment - problem uploading jpegs

Bodyman stuff (right click: update, imagine)-"frenching" headlights, used '56 ford truck headlight bezels still available online.
[btw, i meant photogray the headlight glass, no covers]
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:26 PM
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imo the bumpers MUST be pushed in...tho i think i said that several pages back ..i belive your answer was "if hit youd be screwed" well with this much modding your going to be screwed anyway

these new smaller vents..im just not feeling a "match" on there design just yet....this second draft on them is MUCH worse of a fit to the demon imo....the of the bumper side vents first draft felt "close" to being right
Ok. I admit it. You and Randy are right. I'll get my act together and sort out that issue once and for all. Yeah, at this point if I get hit, I'll just reach for my papers and let the insurance pony up. But not until I "experess myself" to the other driver....

Here's another vent concept. This time, inspired by the Alfa heart

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Old 10-11-2008, 02:09 PM
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That is much better.

The grayed out glass bulbs would be cool, but does that really work? In other words, does the photogray only react to light coming in from the outside, and ignore light going out from the inside? Seems unlikely, but if it can be made to work that way, might be pretty cool.

Does the photogray coating go on the inside of the bulb or the outside. If the outside, I would reject it, cool look notwithstanding - reason being: those coatings are not that tough. Pretty soon it would be all scratched up and look dookie, especially at night.

Can you mount shorter bumper shocks from another car?
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74 Spider "Isabel" traded for "Cecilia" Thanks Ric!
(Look at Isabel now: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/spid...tml#post565887 !!)
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Old 10-11-2008, 05:55 PM
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imo just do away with the bumper shocks..by the time you re-locate them your not going to have enuf room for the bumper to travle anyway...what i would do with them personaly..is drill them drain them of the presurized crap and then do a light "tack" weld where you want them to be sitting..this way if hit they will break the tack weld and work mostly as intended

i dig the fresh sketch..its closer but still not there

LOVE the idea of doing a "french" to the headlights..ALWAYS worth the effort when your running a old round style headlight!!!

just going to toss this out there...street, have you put any thought into blacking out the tail light lenses?,,just saw a new jag today with the tail end TOTALY blacked out...talk about a mean and nasty tail and then he hit his brakes and lit em up..hell of a look that should flow on the demon
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Old 10-11-2008, 06:11 PM
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About the french. I agree up to a point. Inset the headlights just enough to leave the perimeter of the lenses flush with the leading edge of the bucket. Then if that photogray treatment could actually be practical, that would be very clean. Then do the tail like Short suggests - all blacked out.
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74 Spider "Isabel" traded for "Cecilia" Thanks Ric!
(Look at Isabel now: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/spid...tml#post565887 !!)
1979 Sport Sedan Alfamatic. Traded to Wilbur for a very sweet bicycle - thanks!
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Old 10-11-2008, 07:09 PM
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ya know you could probably get a black out tint on the headlights and still have the HID blindingly bright right on thru it

i agree on the french needing to be just to the flush point
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:10 PM
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a re-draft of the front bumper inlets just slapped me in the face...try opening the face inlet area up COMPLETLY from the outer points you want to use from side to side..and then half way between the farthest out points run a divider that is the EXACT same lines as the grill sweep and angle both...try a few different thicknesses of divider..im thinking with the shapes and styles your working with that it may look exactly right for the car..play with distance as well

im fairly sure that the lines of the ends of the center air inlet being the negitive of the alfa heart/grill is whats throwing it off when you add the "extras" off the ends as they share the shape of the grill with a negitive bar dividing the openings

id try shoping it myself but i SUCK at shopping stuff

did that make any sense at all?......youve got \_//___ \/___\\_/ and i think you need \_\\___\/___//_/ or \__\\__\/__//__/

you get the idea
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:40 PM
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Here's some info on PhotoGray invented by the Corning Co.
http://www.corning.com/ophthalmic/pd..._solutions.pdf

As Ed said, price probably unless you are very creative, which you are. A mold of the headlight lens could be made by a sweat shop in China, then muled by a world traveler to the Corning folks for a face to face. The substance used goes in the material as if hot-poured and is put in polycarbonate (aka safety lenses) all the time, but can be done in other materials. Funny that the pdf warns that at temperatures below 12*C the "lens" might get "too dark" in direct sunlight.

p.s. The Painter might go wild with this stuff.
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