02-19-2009, 07:53 PM
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budget v6 spider makeover
after about a year of scrounging parts, i have started a v6 conversion for my 87 spider graduate. previous mods were shankle springs, eibach sway bar, serpent autosport fender flares w/ 15x8 1/2 centerlines wearing 225-50 rubber. i will using a 3.0 verde motor w/ mild head porting, alquati spec cams, and megasquirt 2 controlling fuel and spark. i located an alfa sei short block and was planning on a welded bellhousing. maybe still, but thats a long story. i also plan on cleaning the rear up w/ an early stainless bumper, no rear spoiler, and taillight mods. i will be doing most of the work myself. i have been following streetfame's very impressive project, but my direction [and budget] are different, more 60's. two kids in college and a 37 yr old sailboat see to that. i can't believe how much rotten wood a fiberglass boat can have. hopefully i can be back on the road by the end of the year but who knows. i will give it my best shot
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02-19-2009, 08:50 PM
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a couple of more photos of the process . these are about 5 months old. the 2liter has been pulled and the engine bay seriously degreased. now i am waiting to retrieve my bellhousing from the welder, who has diddappeared, along with said bellhousing. i really hope i dont have to do this over. photos after cut and machining flat
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02-19-2009, 09:46 PM
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the spider looks pretty cool!
nice project
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02-19-2009, 09:50 PM
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Good project! Just be aware that the rear spoiler is actually functional and not cosmetic...
Best regards,
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02-19-2009, 09:54 PM
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I was an oxymoron
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Yeah, it keeps the tail on the ground at speeds approaching 135 
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02-19-2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zunige
Good project! Just be aware that the rear spoiler is actually functional and not cosmetic...
Best regards,
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02-19-2009, 10:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicola
Yeah, it keeps the tail on the ground at speeds approaching 135 |
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02-19-2009, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by alfavulcan
that is probably correct but all options are on the table. i just am trying to clean up the rear to work with the early bumper and be a little less 80's
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I do agree that the clean rear and early metal bumper is more appealing.
I have to admit that even before I joined the BB I dreamed of converting to a V-6 with my '79 spider. I have decided to move forward with the resto keeping it original.
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02-19-2009, 10:22 PM
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early styling w/ v6 sound. actually i would use carbs but for emissions. i have always lusted after the old front engine sport racers of the 60's
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02-19-2009, 10:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alfavulcan
early styling w/ v6 sound. actually i would use carbs but for emissions. i have always lusted after the old front engine sport racers of the 60's
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One of the guys at work has a Subaru Stx, or some such, he has spent a bunch of money on lately, and it is fast! He said he had never been in an Alfa, so we went to lunch Wednesday in my 164 S. I wound it up pretty tight for him, several times, and he went on and on and on all the rest of the day about the Alfa sound!
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02-19-2009, 10:49 PM
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i have had my 91 164s for 10 yrs. you dont know how tempted i was to pull the s motor for the spider, but sanity prevailed[somewhat]. it is safe again
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02-20-2009, 01:54 PM
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Nice. I got my 164S about 6 months ago, and I can't remember when I have had a car I love as much as that one. But I am just few weeks away from getting my Milano Platinum running with S cams in it's 2.5 and things may change once she is up and running. But no matter how much you sex up a Milano it will just never be as lovely as a 164.
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02-20-2009, 03:08 PM
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I was an oxymoron
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Originally Posted by alfavulcan
i hate to admit i've never had an alfa over 110. i did go from fort stockton, tx to pecos, n.m. at 105 to 110 for 150 miles with a large luggage carrier on the roof of a gtv6. it started at the front and slid all the way the rear and luckily stayed on.
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FWIW I'm not sure if there are many bbers here who could claim to have gone over 135 in a Spider - the Besics, and a few others certainly have...
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I'd rather be in an Alfa praying to God that we'll make it home, than sitting in a church thinking about my Alfa.
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1974 Spider 2000 ~ "Mia" (Carb-free)
1971 Junior Zagato 1750 (1800605) ~ "Zach"
"You see that car? Is it different from all the others? Then it's a Zagato."
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02-20-2009, 03:10 PM
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I was an oxymoron
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p.s.
I go over 110 quite frequently in the Jr. Z - of course, that's km/h!!
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I'd rather be in an Alfa praying to God that we'll make it home, than sitting in a church thinking about my Alfa.
Gordy Hyde
1974 Spider 2000 ~ "Mia" (Carb-free)
1971 Junior Zagato 1750 (1800605) ~ "Zach"
"You see that car? Is it different from all the others? Then it's a Zagato."
~ Elio Zagato
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02-20-2009, 03:34 PM
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i may have hit 90 a couple of times in my spider. 135 would be tough and no way with the previous 2.0. but i am rethinking the spoiler but loosing the big taillights and other trim that goes with it. i am a pretty fair body guy so it shouldn't be too hard. famous last words. the jr z is a slick ride. i am definately jealous
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