indicator stalk on 105

Threealfas · #1 (**permalink**) 11-29-2003, 02:01 AM

Silly question. Are the indicators on a 105 meant to manually cancel or are the self cancelling and just wear out over time. If the 2nd statement is correct, how easy are they to fix ?

Thx.

Phil

**John M** · #2 (**permalink**) 11-29-2003, 02:29 AM

Hey Phil:

The one on my 78 Spider self cancels. I had to repair it some time ago. I am going to bet it might be the same setup. There is a spring that wraps around the column shaft a few times and hooks on each side of the inner switch on little clips. Spring usually breaks. Just find a small suitable replacement. Maybe three to four inches long a little thicker than those found in a ball point pen. I found a suitable replacement in a spring set at an advanced auto...a chain parts store. Pretty easy fix. Just pull the column cover.

BTW....I like your collection!

Best Regards,

John M

**papajam** · #3 (**permalink**) 11-29-2003, 05:56 AM

The indicators on ALL 105s are supposed to be self canceling. When they don't, it's usually the spring as described by John M.

Threealfas · #4 (**permalink**) 11-29-2003, 06:29 AM

Thanks guys, i'll look at fixing this.

Cheers,

Phil

**rcess** · #5 (**permalink**) 11-29-2003, 07:28 AM

I just measured a spare spring I have, and it is 4 3/8 inches long. When replacing the spring, rough up the shaft where the spring wraps around it with sand paper. Also, the spring might be ok, but the sliding parts of the turn signal mechanism might need lubracation. The indicators on my newly restored '62 Spider would not self cancel, even with a new spring. A shot of lithium grease into ther opening where the stalk exits the column housing solved the problem.

Bob
'59 101 Sprint
'62 101 Spider
'69 105 Spider

Threealfas · #6 (**permalink**) 12-04-2003, 06:36 AM

Guys thanks for your advice. I changed the spring today ( actually it was missing altogether, I looked at my junior as a template). The stalk is without a doubt better, but the indicator still will not cancel itself. is there some cam in the mechanism that needs replacing aswell. I was wondering if it may have anything to do with the fact that my steering lock does not work.

Anyone want to answer this one ?

Thanks,

phil

aussie74GTV · #7 (**permalink**) 12-04-2003, 07:46 AM

Well my steering lock works but my indicators don't cancel. I guess my spring could be gone but I love the action of the indicator stalk as it is and don't wanna mess with it.

**Farace** · #8 (**permalink**) 12-04-2003, 07:57 AM

Not to hijack someone else's thread, but is there a way to reduce how quickly the signal cancels? My signal cancels with the slightest movement of the steering wheel; I'd really rather have to turn it a quarter-turn or so before it cancels instead of just little normal corrective steering motions.

**papajam** · #9 (**permalink**) 12-05-2003, 06:19 AM

Sounds like opposite ends of the spectrum; Phil's spring is too loose and Bob's is too tight.

**papajam** · #10 (**permalink**) 12-05-2003, 06:25 AM

Oh, and the steering lock shouldn't have anything to do with the turn signals; two separate issues.

jackr · #11 (**permalink**) 01-19-2004, 08:50 AM

Is it true that the spring can be replaced without pulling the steering wheel?

maxludo · #12 (**permalink**) 08-26-2008, 11:55 PM

not unless you can get to the hub that surrounds them.... which can't be done without removing hte wheel!

**togin** · #13 (**permalink**) 08-27-2008, 05:52 AM

I just replaced my spring on my 74 GTV without removing the steering wheel. It was a pain not just in the usual places but also my fingers. But figured removing steering wheel was a bigger obstacle.

**John M** · #14 (**permalink**) 08-27-2008, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxludo

not unless you can get to the hub that surrounds them.... which can't be done without removing hte wheel!

**garwood1** · #15 (**permalink**) 08-27-2008, 09:31 AM

A warning - watch the looped ends of this spring - I found that when I replaced the indicator stalk on my '77 Spider, installing spring per above methods (several wraps around roughed-up steering column) that I must have left the open ends of these loops sticking out slightly - After time, they came into contact with the live indicator contacts, which live nearby, creating a nice cloud of acrid smoke from the column shroud as I sat at an intersection !! Spring must have been well-hot, as it streched, distorted and changed colour !! I took the damn thing off, and now cancel them myself. One less electrical thing for me to worry about !