
11-28-2011, 05:52 PM
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Hazards, flashers, ignition oh my!!!
Hello all. I am in desperate need of help. 1st, I understand that this is an Alfa forum, however during my relentless searching I keep coming up with a reference to Alfas when entering in my parts.
I have a 1974 Fiat El Car otherwise known as a Zagato Zele. I am trying to restore this rare find and keep running into road blocks. I have the following parts:
a BOSCH Warnblinkgeber 0336 401 004 with 31, KBL, 49, and 49A terminals. I am assuming this is a flasher of some kind.
an 8 pin hazard button labeled SAE QC 69 DKS - B with the following terminals 49a, 49, 30b, R, 30, 15, L, and 31 in the center.
finally a black box labeled SBS 4A 24volt Magnetti Marelli. it has 3 unmarked terminals...2 close together and one by its self next to a screw that is coated in a red substance.
In addition, the ignition barrel I have not been able to figure out either. The part number is 70070, but the drawings I have found do not correspond to the actual item that I have. My terminals are 30/4, 30/4, 30, 30, 15/54, 15/54.
Any help on how to wire these items together would be greatly appreciated. I need help, I can't find a schematic, and I just don't know what to do or who to ask. Please, I did not post in disrespect and if I have violated this forum I apologize.
Please, can anyone offer any advice, assistance, or point me in the right direction. Thanking you all in advance, CHUCK.
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11-28-2011, 05:59 PM
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So is this what you have? The Zagato Zele 1000, 1500, 2000 (also known as the Elcar Electric 1000, 1500, 2000) was an electric microcar with a polyester body. It was made from 1974-1976 by the Italian design company Zagato, which had long been known for beautiful and light weight exotic sports car bodies. The Zele, however, was high, square cornered and slow. They were produced in 7 colors, the chassis and suspension was Fiat derived. The "1000, 1500, and 2000 stands for the wattage of the motors respectively. Only 500 total were made.
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11-28-2011, 06:10 PM
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Yes sir, that is what I have. I have a 1000. The story of how it came into my possession is rather lengthy and somewhat educational and entertaining.
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11-29-2011, 02:50 PM
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BOSCH Warnblinkgeber 0336 401 004 with 31, KBL, 49, and 49A terminals.
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hazard/turn signal flasher
31 goes to ground
49 is turn signal flasher (pulse generator) input
49a is turn signal flasher (pulse generator) output
KBL to dash indicator
see attached pdf as used in Alfa
see attached din codes pdf
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11-29-2011, 03:01 PM
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SBS 4A 24volt Magnetti Marelli
voltage regulator???
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11-29-2011, 03:41 PM
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I have gained a wealth or knowledge thus far and want to thank you for your attempt at helping me. I will print and pour over these diagrams and try to figure out my problems before I post again so as not to be a bother. Thank you again, CHUCK
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11-29-2011, 05:51 PM
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Gentlemen...I have reviewed the technical documents that you all provided to me and I do have a couple of more questions...
On my ignition barrel the terminal with dual numbers 30/4 and 15/54...how do I read the in the DIN wiring. I have noticed that there is no 54 at all in the wiring code?
Also, my barrel doesn't show INT terminals but instead 30/4??
Thanks again for all your time and effort....I do truly appreciate it, CHUCK
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11-29-2011, 08:15 PM
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DIN 72552 terminal designations
wikipedia's list of what DIN says: see attached pdf has some 54 designations on it.
for some of it I would guess you are "off application" and may need to get a meter and see what connects to what in the switch in different positions and then through the process of elimination get the major parts connected and sort through how the other wires may have been connected or intended to function.
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12-17-2011, 08:14 AM
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What a cool car. Hope you keep it running. Post some pictures of it for us.
Looks like Smart Car copied the body design.
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