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post #1 of 59 (permalink) Old 11-25-2009, 07:01 PM Thread Starter
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Cars and Coffee DC?

I know DC is not really much of a car town, but if a place like Omaha can have one of these, why not Washington? Seems like a fun way to spend a Sat morning

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not sure what I'm looking at...your link just shows another car Bulletin Board type forum on the internet....which is what we have here on Alfa BB if folks would pay attention to the Capital area section

what am I missing here?

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If you click on the starred locations, you'll see photos and info about a weekly gathering in each of these cities where car nuts gather for coffee and gawk at cars, etc. The one in Irvine, Calif., (Los Angeles area) was I think the first one and is somewhat renowned. I just thought the idea of a regular place where you could drive over on a nice Saturday to gawk at cool cars was interesting.

Here's a site dedicated to the Irvine event: http://irvine.carsandcoffee.info/

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find a venue and it can happen!

we've got car clubs around (not that they interact very much right now)
who could kick things off...

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Glad you posted that dcalfa...........I'm in Omaha and didn't know we had such a thing. They have a fourm too.

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DCALFA:

why don't you get the ball rolling....maybe start with an Alfa cars/coffee meeting once a month since we've got an email list we can use, we're making more improvements to the DC Chapter website, we've got the Convention coming up...all good signs for participation & enthusiasm..... see if some folks respond then expand to Fiat, MG clubs etc....

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Full time job, wife, two kids, new puppy, two cats and a temperamental Italian car...and you want me to set up coffee klatches too?! ;-)

Seriously, it is something to ponder. (I also confess I have yet to even get on the stick with joining AROC, so I may not be the best candidate for this sort of organizational thing!)

Your idea is also good to start with vintage car clubs. The "Cars and Coffee" thing is a little hard to figure out--it looks like a snazzy corporate sponsored type thing, but the website offers no real details about who's "behind" it all. The original one in Irvine started in a grassroots way as far as I can tell from web accounts.

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well, hopefully the temperamental car can be sorted out...cats, dog, wife and kids another story.

problem with DC area is that there's no natural "cruise in" places, like drive ins etc....also things are a bit more "high-society" than in many communities...

Ferrrari/Maserati of Washington (out near Dulles) used to host a fair number of events that Alfa people could come to but they've changed ownership and personnel, and don't seem interested in doing much these days.....

I don't see other dealers stepping up....they want to sell new cars and don't see the value in "heritage" events. To some degree they are right in not putting a lot of $$ into the vintage crowd..... not much ROI for them.

I guess that's why the car clubs are so important to the vintage owner...there's no alternative. I think the AROC local club does a pretty credible job for the Alfa crowd....I joined about 4 yrs ago and now have 2 Alfas and get involved in some of the organizing
work. But, there's so many things competing for everyone's time these days....kids, soccer, business functions, school, oh...work too.

hopefully you can get to one of the local events at some point....

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... (I also confess I have yet to even get on the stick with joining AROC, ...) ...
You shouldn't wait too long... The national AROC convention is taking place in Frederick, MD in June 2010... The last time the convention took place in your neck of the woods was in 1993 - and at this coming gathering, the club will be celebrating Alfa's 100th anniversary!

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I might add that there is no particular reason for you to "affiliate" with Cars and Coffee, per se. The local Lambo club started a regular Saturday morning gathering in the Seattle area, and word spread quickly through the Euro car community. Similar to C&C, just by a different name.

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I live out near Dulles airport, we got LOTS of places with big, honking parking lots. I tried to gather folks up for the weekend cruise at the local Chik-fil-a, but I didn't follow through and nothing happened. That said, the Starbucks at the Clocktower shopping center is a free-standing coffee shop in the middle of a wide-open parking lot. Ain't nobody crowding around on any particular morning. You want a location to show cars, it really doesn't get much better. Anyone want more details, let me know. There's a 71 spider and an 88 Milano that'll show up with bells on.

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for quickie meet-ups of small groups, the Starbucks/ chic-fil lots are fine; the difficulty is with anything sizable, or if it becomes a regular public event (like Coffee & Cars); there are liability, safety and crowd "loitering" issues. I have a feeling that the Irvine group started informally, then got in trouble, probably with some police & safety issues and Ford (I think) bailed them out by providing approval to use their lot and making sure there was some kind of police presence (referenced in the Irvine info)

I would be ecstatic if you could find a company to sponsor a general meet-up in the DC area;

With Alfa Club events, liability is a minimal issue as insurance coverage is part of AROC membership...part of the dues we pay.

If you've got an Alfa, I'd recommend you sign up just for that benefit alone.....plus the National Convention in Frederick in June, plus some pretty good events thru the year.,...

If you're already a member, perhaps you might pick up where you left off ("never followed through.....") and pull something together.....How about it?

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Yes, yes! I will definitely follow through on the Alfa club.

My point, however, was that the concept of a much broader gathering--everything from vintage Brit to Italian exotics to tuners to oddball--seemed unique and very appealing. I love my Alfa (to the point that I'm not sure I'd buy any other vintage brand for myself in the near future) but I also like many other vintage cars, especially almost anything European from the 50s/60s/70s era. It would be neat to have a place to gander at all that variety regularly--to be able to ogle a DS or 2CV in person without having to seek out the nearest Citroen meeting, for instance.

I meant the post just to make the observation that it seems a metro area this large should be able to support an event like that. But I agree location seems particularly difficult in the DC area the way it's laid out, the general air of NIMBYism, etc.

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I think Phil Knight's group coined the phrase.....



Just DO IT!!!!!





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I am more than willing to help and am involved in several car clubs. Send me a PM with an email address and let me know what you need.

In addition to car clubs, I know several shops that might be interested in donating either space or something toward getting this going...

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