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Was that a factory Turbo, or something done on delivery in Australia?
It was the genuine Autodelta turbo "kit" comprising
Boost kit for the dellorto's
plenum
cross pipe
manifold
external waste gate
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low compression pistons
larger vented front disks with separate hats (I think same as a Montreal),
boost gauge

I'm pretty sure it involved some suspension upgrades as well.

It was built by John French as a sort of dealer fitted option/special. Came with a set of 5 Simmons V4 15" alloys.

I don't think there were more than a handful of the John French Turbodelta's built (I owned #2 for a while). The kit is pretty rare anywhere in the world.

The actual Grp4 cars ran cooper-ringed extra thick cromo liners set into the head but the road car kit only had low comp pistons and normal liners.

There is a pic of the "original" Autodelta road car and a bit of info on it and the Grp4 cars at www.alfacollection.altervista.org/alfettagt.htm

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That's very interesting Darryl. What is your impression of the car and its price? Is there a lot of re-comissioning to do re the Turbo and its ancillaries? Is it a fragile car to run?

Were the kits issued by Autodelta?
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Value - well that is an interesting one - always hard with something unusual, with what is obviously a limited market . Condition will be critical. There is some suggestion it has 0km since rebuild but what was rebuilt, how well, and with what parts?

When sorted these cars aren't particularly temperamental in my opinion. They can suffer from overheating - using appropriate oil, modifying the dizzy to give proper vac/boost advance/retard (the original approach was to lock it) and doing everything you can heat-shielding wise to keep the turbo heat away from everything else seems to do the trick (and the dizzy mods improve driveability).

If the turbo needs rebuilding it will set you back whatever the going cost of turbo rebuilds is today (probably almost as much as a new turbo unfortunately).

The breathing is really weird because of the turbo and restrictive plumbing in front of the carbs when off-boost and then forced induction coming in. They seem (though I don't really know what the original jetting was) to have been set up to run excessively rich "everywhere" (safer on pistons that way I guess). Plan on some dyno time and some creative fiddling by an experienced carb tuner to get it right if you want it to drive well.

Oh - and anyone who really wants a drift car should (if hitting your head against the wall until the urge goes away doesn't work) go and do what the rest of the ricer's do and try to blow up a Nissan engine . This car is *not* a sensible starting point for "bolting on" power. If you are mad enough to want a very fast turbo alfetta GTV, get the cheapest engine you can find because you will need every cent to buy/build/have fabricated pretty much everything... Don't buy this car because there are no parts on it that are useful to you.

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Were the kits issued by Autodelta?
Forgot to answer the easy question: Yes.

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Darryl, you are officially the Alfa BB, Australian Turbo Alfetta authority.

Certified.
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On a completely different topic, anyone interested in a Junior Z? There is a beauty available here in Perth. Although Cileberti Motors are my mechanics and I know them pretty well, I came across this at random and have no connection with the seller (I imagine it's on consignment).

I have seen the car at the All Italian Car Day and it's a ripper. I don't know how many Zs there are in Australia and I can't comment on the price.

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On a completely different topic, anyone interested in a Junior Z? There is a beauty available here in Perth. Although Cileberti Motors are my mechanics and I know them pretty well, I came across this at random and have no connection with the seller (I imagine it's on consignment).

I have seen the car at the All Italian Car Day and it's a ripper. I don't know how many Zs there are in Australia and I can't comment on the price.
I remember seeing that car at shows before I left Perth years ago.

So, Giulietta 116s - we dont all like them, but it is nice to see one for sale for more than $200 that actually comes roadworthy!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Alfa-Romeo-Gi...QQcmdZViewItem
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my dead horse

Up late reading threads so I might as well flog my dead horse.
I have a white Gulia GT Sprint on carsales.
The car is in original condition and would suit someone that preffers preserved cars rather than restored ones (and no that doesnt mean its full of rust). Anyway if anyones interested its in the shed come have a look.
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I remember seeing that car at shows before I left Perth years ago.

So, Giulietta 116s - we dont all like them, but it is nice to see one for sale for more than $200 that actually comes roadworthy!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Alfa-Romeo-Gi...QQcmdZViewItem
ahh, a silver giulietta, i want one again

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Got a friend looking for a 75, a nice one. If anyone knows of any?

'74 GTV 2000 - [COLOR="Blue"]LeMans Blue [/COLOR]
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Forgot to answer the easy question: Yes.

Darryl, just wondering, did you ever get over an see my mechanic about your 75 ?

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Darryl, just wondering, did you ever get over an see my mechanic about your 75 ?

Phil
Nah - figured the sanest thing to do after the clutch fiasco was to just get a complete clutch kit and a slave cylinder (had already done the master) and chuck it in myself. It is good now! Nothing else (except a door handle - anyone got one?) has broken since then (touch wood)!

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Darryl, you are officially the Alfa BB, Australian Turbo Alfetta authority^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H tragic.

Certified^H^Hable.
Just a couple of small corrections :-)

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check this out for a classic 80's aphla

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Cracking car Enri, I think its time I owned one.
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