04-15-2007, 05:48 AM
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AAAH, Nooooo Brake Master Cylinder
Let me dry my eyes,
I have to buy a new Brake Master cylinder for my 71 GTV 1750.
Can anyone let me know the best (read cheapest) place to buy one, So far , Classic Alfa in the UK seems the cheapest way out but I am worried that it may be the wrong one and I won't be able to return it.
Is there just one sort of twin circuit Master cylinder for the RHD 71 GTV?
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Nick
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04-15-2007, 07:46 AM
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Have you tried Turin imports ( www.turinimports.com.au) and The Spare Place ( www.thespareplace.com.au), here in Adelaide? They are two of the best in Australia for all Alfa spares. The other possibility is to get the original resleeved and buy a seal kit from one of the above. I am sure there must be someone who does that in Perth. We have crowds in Adelaide who will resleeve any brake cylinders with stainless steel.
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04-15-2007, 05:32 PM
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I don't really get what the problem is nick...
There shouldn't really be a need to replace the whole item, and they can be rebuilt much more economically anyway. I've had the brake MC for both my GTV and Berlina rebuilt and from memory the Berlinas was done for about $200 including labour. You'd be talking at least double for a brand new one.
ciao.
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04-15-2007, 06:20 PM
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Maybe I'm being taken for a stoll down the Garden path, I have been quoted $780.00 for the cylinder (not fitted).
Thanks for the info
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04-16-2007, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by py105
I don't really get what the problem is nick...
There shouldn't really be a need to replace the whole item, and they can be rebuilt much more economically anyway. I've had the brake MC for both my GTV and Berlina rebuilt and from memory the Berlinas was done for about $200 including labour. You'd be talking at least double for a brand new one.
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1961 MGA 1600 Roadster, British Racing Green
1966 Giulia Sprint GT ,Argento
1970 1750 GTV s2, Verde Olivo Metallica (AR213)
2005 Holden Rodeo LT Crew Cab, Fox Fire Red
{Oo==V==oO}
Previously owned
1983 Ford Laser KB, Beige
1985 Volvo 360 GLT Dark Mettalic Blue
1970 GT Junior stepnose Resprayed Red, Giallo Ochre
1923 Amilcar Sports, rusty
I may only own two ALFAs now, but the handle stays as I am always chasing another one. 
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04-16-2007, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Threealfas
Milano spares in Melbourne will have what you need.
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04-16-2007, 05:54 AM
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Errr, yeah but they wont do the work. Just rock up to Cileberti and ask for a brake MC rebuild and Im sure you'll find it quite painless and affordable |
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04-16-2007, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by py105
Errr, yeah but they wont do the work. Just rock up to Cileberti and ask for a brake MC rebuild and Im sure you'll find it quite painless and affordable |
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1961 MGA 1600 Roadster, British Racing Green
1966 Giulia Sprint GT ,Argento
1970 1750 GTV s2, Verde Olivo Metallica (AR213)
2005 Holden Rodeo LT Crew Cab, Fox Fire Red
{Oo==V==oO}
Previously owned
1983 Ford Laser KB, Beige
1985 Volvo 360 GLT Dark Mettalic Blue
1970 GT Junior stepnose Resprayed Red, Giallo Ochre
1923 Amilcar Sports, rusty
I may only own two ALFAs now, but the handle stays as I am always chasing another one.
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04-16-2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by italiansedanman
Good advice from someone who's not from Perth! Leo is a champion, he can fix anything, and he wont rob you.
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04-16-2007, 07:58 PM
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Agreed, always consider though.
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My 2000GTV was a Perth car, and had somewhere in the order of 20K spent at Cileberti over the course of 10 years or so. From the fat receipt file and the testimony of the PO I reckon I can recommend them! |
They are quoting $ 650.00 though for the replacement Master Cylinder,
(not fitted)
Max from Alfaholics in the UK can supply a new one for around $ 450.00 incl air freight.
I think I will be going this way as a totally "new" cylinder feels the right way to go with my car.
Nick
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04-16-2007, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by alfanick
Agreed, Ciliberti's have the parts, the knowledge etc, I have had nothing but good service etc from them.
They are quoting $ 650.00 though for the replacement Master Cylinder,
(not fitted)
Max from Alfaholics in the UK can supply a new one for around $ 450.00 incl air freight.
I think I will be going this way as a totally "new" cylinder feels the right way to go with my car.
Nick
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1961 MGA 1600 Roadster, British Racing Green
1966 Giulia Sprint GT ,Argento
1970 1750 GTV s2, Verde Olivo Metallica (AR213)
2005 Holden Rodeo LT Crew Cab, Fox Fire Red
{Oo==V==oO}
Previously owned
1983 Ford Laser KB, Beige
1985 Volvo 360 GLT Dark Mettalic Blue
1970 GT Junior stepnose Resprayed Red, Giallo Ochre
1923 Amilcar Sports, rusty
I may only own two ALFAs now, but the handle stays as I am always chasing another one.
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04-16-2007, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Threealfas
No rekitting is cheeper and just as good, don't waste your money.
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04-16-2007, 11:01 PM
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I'm totally in agreement...
Think of it like this also - a brand new MC with crap seals and sleeve is a worse MC than an old MC rekitted with good seals and sleeve |
04-16-2007, 11:14 PM
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Resleeved cylinders are better than new because they use stainless steel which of course doesn't rust. This means that in the future when the seals wear out (years from now) all you have to do is clean the cylinder up and maybe run some Autosol polish through it lightly and put in a new kit. I used to work in the brake business and I only use new cylinders when they are cheaper than resleeved ones, which is the case on most cars. I would not waste my money on a new one if the price was as high as you have been quoted. A resleeved cylinder will be significantly cheaper and will outlast the rest of the car, believe me. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain as I see it.
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04-16-2007, 11:27 PM
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By the way, assembling master cylinders is not rocket science, especially old ones like that. All you need is some rubber grease to lubricate the seals and cylinder and stretch the seals over the piston as per a diagram or taking note from the original, put it back together and refit the circlip. You could maybe save some money if you assemble it yourself.
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