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Old 07-06-2009, 10:20 PM
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Timing Belt Replacement for a 2003 Alfa Spider 2.0L TwinSpark

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What is the rcommended servive interval for the timing belt and balance shaft belt? I have an Alfa GTV/Spider service disc from the manufacturer which states 100 000km, but the Oz Dealers state 60 000km or 5 years. Have the Oz dealers done this because of possible belt failures before 100 000km. What should I do, my vehicle is a 2003 model with 51 340km on the clock.

I have posted this on the world forum with no luck. I would also like to know if anyone has manufactured cosmetic, more than functional Roll Bars for this vehicle? It looks a bit plain without them.
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:50 AM
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60,000 km. I would be absolutely amazed if it made it to 100k without breaking. Last time i was at the local specialist, there were 3 147 TS's (same engine i believe), lined up which had broken belts. Anywhere between 9 and all 16 valves bent, easily triple the cost of just having it done on time.

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Old 07-07-2009, 01:27 AM
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Thanks for that Mat. I know the 5 year interval has expired, but I will push push to 60 000km as this car has only done soft milage and always garaged. I hope that will be a wise decision doing it on k's instead of time. Can you help with the roll bar issue.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:03 AM
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its actually 3 years or 60k kms. If it was my car I wouldnt risk it, not with a TS engine belt that has been subject to our climate for more than 5 years, driven or not.... delaying the service expense by a few months or so could cost you big $$$... just my 2 cents worth..

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Old 07-07-2009, 04:06 AM
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Thanks Martin, I will take that on board.
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:35 AM
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The Aus dealer network changed the interval back in 2003/4 I believe to the 60000km or 3 Years. I remember going to a Melbourne dealer back then and there were signs in bold highlighting this change. The owners manual stated check at 60000 replace at 100000 or 120000. The worst thing about this type of failure (broken timing belt) is you dont know how much damage is done until you get the head off and strip it down. I changed my first belt in my 147 at 3 years yet the car had covered a paltry 34000km.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:56 AM
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I thought it was also 3 years, but wasn't game to go throwing a suspect figure around on such an issue. so thank you all for clarifying.

As for the roll bar, i can't be much specific help, however i would recommend talking to your local roll cage builder. Make sure that it will be CAMS approved. I havn't had it done yet, but a half cage (approved and all) for my Alfetta will cost about $1k. Cheap life insurance.

The reason it must be CAMS approved is that it will be built to the right standards to withstand a good proper rollover. I saw some backyard job involved in a roll a couple of months ago. The car rolled once. It is fair to say that the bar saved the driver, however if it had of rolled again, it would of been game over. On later inspection, the bar could be moved about a foot all over the place. A real eye opener.

Also, you may even be excluded from events if the cage is not approved. If not done properly it actually makes the car more dangerous than the same car without one. apparently.
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It sounds as though I should do the belt sooner than later, you guys have made up my mind, thanks. I am new to this forum, but have already got some good feedback for my issues. The question about the Roll Bars seem quite involved. As you know the Spider has a storage compartment behind the seat and is not very strong in construction. I thought that The Roll Bar could be installed for cosmetic purposes only. I did not even think about CAMS approval. If the Roll bar is to be a functional Bar, I am almost certain it would be mounted to the floor behind the seats which will limit the rearward travel of the seat. This would not be ideal as I am tall and need the full travel of the seat. Any suggestions?
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:51 AM
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Another question I would like to ask, Has anyone got some details about the 3.0L GTV6 which were modified 2.5L GTV6's. They were in South Africa in the mid 1980's. I believe they sported 3 twin choke Delorto Carbies instead of fuel injection. These are as scarse as hens teeth.Can anyone furnish some more detail about this monster.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:28 PM
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Hey Bobbyv

3 years,60,000 kms,whatever comes first.
Make sure whoever is dooing the job for you uses CAM LOCKS and not liquid paper to line up the cam timing marks.

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Old 07-07-2009, 03:45 PM
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Thanks Robert.
I will mention that to the repairer, I know that one of the cams is on the cusp of either advancing or retarding when the engine is a TDC on no. 1 cylinder. I had the same problem with an Astra.
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Hey again bobbyv.
Also tell them to overhaul the phase variator on the inlet cam.
This makes a big difference also.

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What he said .. ^variator^ & ^proper cam locks^
I'd also get the waterpump done too whilst it's all apart, the biggest expense is going to be the labour
I had everything in the critcal path replaced when I had the belts done on mine (JTD), cost of the pump was negligble.

Try searching here for more information, horror stories regarding cam belt failure


With regards roll over bars you may want to check with your relevant Dept. of Transport. Some cages etc, whilst CAMS approved, are not road legal.
**I don't know anything about this subject other than that.

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Thanks to everyone for the input. I have the Spider booked into Autodelta in Perth for this job. It will be done on 17 July. I have given up on the Roll Bar idea. I have convinced the wife that we should keep the vehicle as standard as possible.
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