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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-07-2008, 04:53 PM Thread Starter
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Source for vintage Blau speaker plugs?

Finally received my vintage 60s Balupunkt Frankfurt

First this I noticed is that the speaker jacks on the unit are an odd, small female plug. Any idea what the male plug is called which plugs into the female jacks? And, if they're not at the local electronics store, where they can be found

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I think that the Europeans use the DIN (Deutsches Institut für Normung) standard throughout, in which case the plugs you need are 2-pin DIN plugs. Your local electrical store should stock them. I've attached a photo of what I think are the sockets to which you refer. Let me know it this is correct or not.
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Here's two photos of the back of my Frankfurt. Jarrington, the plugs you show on the German website look like they'd work...but would only be for one mono speaker? How do I get two stereo speakers wired into this receiver...or maybe I can't

Also, what is the smaller male spade connector on the left of the top photo (below) for?

Thanks for the leads, BTW!
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I believe Blaupunkt Frankfurt was Mono only - if you use the Blaupunkt plug referred to above just put a splitter after it and have Mono sound from multiple speakers.
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I believe Blaupunkt Frankfurt was Mono only - if you use the Blaupunkt plug referred to above just put a splitter after it and have Mono sound from multiple speakers.
Aha! Thanks.

Maybe I'll go the full-vintage route and have one mono speaker at the factory speaker grille next to the ashtray...for now.

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That's my plan. I've got a real live '67 Blaupunkt Stuttgart, which is just like the Frankfurt but without FM. Old-skool!

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Oh, and smaller spade connector - maybe automatic antenna? Does it give you 12V hot when the radio power is turned on?

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The photos I took were of the rear connectors on my Frankfurt, a stereo model that dates from about 1971/72. It uses the 2-pin DIN sockets & plugs for the speaker output, as does the Becker Europa I've also got in the shed somewhere, though it is mono. The banana type plugs look as they are the go for your radio - one for the nominal +ve and the other for the -ve (or earth) connections.
The other issue with these radios is that the European models only tuned FM from about 88MHz to 104MHz, so you miss the top end of the modern FM range. I believe that the US (and Oz) models of the period covered the entire FM band in mono initially then later in stereo.
My Frankfurt also has a small spade connector which supplies a switched +ve 12V supply for an automatic antenna. Yours may be the same - a voltmeter will tell you.
Under the plastic plug should be a 6-pin DIN socket (7-pin in the stereo models) for the optional cassette player. This can be used to wire up an MP3 player, CD player etc. I've attached wiring diagrams for these plugs that I downloaded from a French site at ANTIQUE CAR RADIO MADNESS
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The photos I took were of the rear connectors on my Frankfurt, a stereo model that dates from about 1971/72. It uses the 2-pin DIN sockets & plugs for the speaker output, as does the Becker Europa I've also got in the shed somewhere, though it is mono. The banana type plugs look as they are the go for your radio - one for the nominal +ve and the other for the -ve (or earth) connections.
The other issue with these radios is that the European models only tuned FM from about 88MHz to 104MHz, so you miss the top end of the modern FM range. I believe that the US (and Oz) models of the period covered the entire FM band in mono initially then later in stereo.
My Frankfurt also has a small spade connector which supplies a switched +ve 12V supply for an automatic antenna. Yours may be the same - a voltmeter will tell you.
Under the plastic plug should be a 6-pin DIN socket (7-pin in the stereo models) for the optional cassette player. This can be used to wire up an MP3 player, CD player etc. I've attached wiring diagrams for these plugs that I downloaded from a French site at ANTIQUE CAR RADIO MADNESS
Hope this is of some use to you,
Chris
Awesome, Chris; thanks! Yeah, my Frankfurt stops at 104Mhz, too, but it doesn't bother me.

I just love that I can have an electricly actuated antenna, but have FM in mono! I'll order the male connecter for the speaker jacks this weekend if the local electronics store doesn't stock the connecter.

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No problems - glad to be of some help.
Post some photos when the radio is installed in your car. I'd be interested in seeing them.
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No problems - glad to be of some help.
Post some photos when the radio is installed in your car. I'd be interested in seeing them.
Ci vediamo,
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Well, yourself & Jarrington & Alleggerita are welcome to come over for a beer and hear it for yourself

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Thanks - if I'm ever in LA County I'll drop in though it'll be a bit of a hike as I "come from the land down under, where women glow and men chunder" as the song said ......
When I get my radio in my car I'll post a couple of photos.
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Talking My Frankfurt is installed & working!

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No problems - glad to be of some help.
Post some photos when the radio is installed in your car. I'd be interested in seeing them.
Ci vediamo,
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Well, radio is installed and working! Yep, radio IS mono only- the two speaker plugs are for positive and negative (not left and right), and that what I'd thought was the balance control is a tone control. I found some crimp-on single plugs in my toolbox which worked perfectly, so I avoided having to order an $8.00 (+/-) speaker plug from Germany.

Pretty-neat- Alfa provides a ground on the right side of the (Series 1 Giulia Super) ashtray- a threaded stud with nut on it- which I used in lieu of the negative plug on the back of the "stereo". I bought a length of Simpson bracket which I cut and drilled for the back radio support.

It was kinda fun to take a walk through memory lane by means of looking at my underdash wiring efforts of +/- 25 years ago Also, I remembered from way back then that reinstalling the ashtray/cigar lighter was a s*navab&tch, and I was right! I used an early 80's Kenwood speaker I had laying around in the factory dash speaker location, and voila- toe-tappin' AM and FM tunes. I couldn't get anything on the SW or LW bands from my (concrete block) garage, but now a road trip is in order to see what I can receive.

Thanks to all who provided advice and moral support. Photo coming soon..

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The finished article

And here's them photos of the NOS Frankfurt in my dash. This calls for a drive to work today to play with reception on the LW ans SW bands!
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