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SW & LW question

Anybody have any idea why I seem to receive SW and LW on my Frankfurt much better at night than in the daytime?
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:57 PM
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Less general static and iterferance creating stuff out at night.

You'll find most types of broadcast carry further/clearer at night, particularly those on the extreme lower and extreme higher range of the FM band. (ever regularly pick up a TV station at night via rabbit ears that you could never even conceive of pickijng up during the day? Same principle)
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Il Vecc et al,
SW (shortwave) and LW (longwave) are broadcast using amplitude modulation (AM) in the kilohertz bands rather than frequency modulation (FM) in the megahertz bands.
One of the properties of AM broadcasts is their ability to be heard 'over the horizon' whereas FM is usually 'line of sight'. The lower the broadcast frequency the further away the AM signal can be heard because the radiowaves bounce off the ionosphere and are reflected back toward earth. This is why ham radio enthusiasts operating in the low frequency shortwave bands can pick up signals from the other side of the earth.
FM broadcasts have an inherently higher energy by virtue of their wavelength and penetrate straight through the atmosphere and into outerspace. The advantage is that you can have lots of shared FM frequencies so long as the transmitters are out of line of sight, over the visible horizon.
At night the ionosphere is relatively smooth because it is not being hit directly by ionising radiation from the sun and therefore acts as a much better internal reflector, hence your better AM reception at night. Whether you have anything worthwhile to listen too of course is another issue .....
As an aside, the top secret 'over the horizon' radar is nothing more than focused shortwave transmissions in bursts with a frequency low enough to be internally reflected but high enough to resolve aircraft. It too works much better at night though the defence forces will never admit that fact.
Hope this helps.
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Had a quick look on the web and found a couple of pictures that explain all - and you know how much I like pictures

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the Europeans use LW broadcasting, the US does not. there are SW stations both here and in Europe. here we usually use AM& FM for broadcasting, the SW stations are usually religeous broadcasting or talk here.
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the Europeans use LW broadcasting, the US does not. there are SW stations both here and in Europe. here we usually use AM& FM for broadcasting, the SW stations are usually religeous broadcasting or talk here.
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Verrry interesting! On LW, I have gotten some noises, but only noises- that explains it. I've gotten one or two SW stations- sounds like Dutch and some eastern European language, respectively.

Some night I'll drive up to the nearby mountains (it'll give me a chance to hit the Angeles Crest Hwy ) and listen in to the SW.

(BTW, IMO AM radio is terrible here in Los Angeles- only nonethnic music seems to be Radio Disney )
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Around the US, there are non directional beacons usually at airports on the LW band. also some strange sounds from weather beacons and such. the European LW stations dont make it this far very often, usually in winter only when the thunder storm static is lowest.
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