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Old 02-21-2005, 03:30 PM
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new Alfa 159

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high res pics; http://tinyurl.com/5sorf


details ; http://tinyurl.com/5nvsc
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http://www.italiaspeed.com/2005/moto...fa_159_106.jpg
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Quite franky, it seems not much more than an upgraded 156 to me.
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Did you read the details on the 4WD system? It's got "three differentials and a torque splitter that favours the rear axle. The Q4 system modifies the torque split between the front and rear axles constantly, according to the grip. This feature is particularly important for a sporty driving style and sportiness, and it boosts active safety."

it's apparently larger as well. But overall, I really like the design.

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Old 02-21-2005, 06:39 PM
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I wonder if it will be used in the next World Touring Car Championship season, or is that too soon for a new car? That torque split should do them nicely in instances where the BMWs have an advantage due to being RWD.
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:04 PM
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so hott, wat a beaut and apparently its built like a german car, cant wait for the GTA and crazy diesel version.
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:30 PM
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I love it especially the Q4 drive - wow! And I can't have it.
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Can't see the photos. The links aren't working!!
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:57 AM
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italiaspeed site has some problems maybe too much visitors or someone hacked it

another site with 159 and brera pics and details

http://car.kak.net/
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Great link DAWG!!!
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159 amazing chassis....read 4

1)156 used to be small by class standard, so predictably, 159 has grown considerably larger. It is 4,660 mm long (+230mm), 1,828 mm wide (+78mm) and with a wheelbase of 2,700 mm (+100mm). However, Giugiaro emphasis a sporty profile, thus actually reduces its height by 3 mm to 1417 mm

2)Inside, although we have no pictures to prove, Alfa promises a driver-focused design, with wrap-around center console and all instruments turned towards the driver.

3)This platform employs sophisticated double-wishbones front and multi-link rear suspensions. It is either FWD or 4WD, the latter by Alfa's Q4 system. The Q4 employs a Torsen C center differential to transmit 57% torque to the rear axle normally and provides limited slip function when one axle spins. It is therefore more rear-biased than Audi's Quattro system

4)One of the most remarkable things is chassis rigidity – the chassis of 159 achieves 31400 Nm / degree, a figure so high that I'm afraid only VW Phaeton can exceed. For instance, Opel Vectra and Saab 9-3 are 18,000 and 20,000 Nm / degree respectively. The 159 uses multi-ply sheet metal, extensive laser welding, boxed element structure etc. to achieve high rigidity. This benefits crash protection, NVH suppression as well as handling

bmw 3 has only 19000nm
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Old 02-25-2005, 08:07 AM
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indeed the 159 should be the best handling cars in its class, with so much torsional rigidity, well laid out suspension and a clever AWD system, expect class leading dynamics.
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I'm sure the 159 will be a very nice car, but with AWD, will have to cost $40,000 plus...and what V6 will they use? If it's the GM Australia Holden motor, then is it really an Alfa?
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If FWD versions handling are even better than 156, we can go for them and save some thousands bucks.
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