
11-27-2002, 03:09 AM
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Alfa 33-2 #033015
Hi Alfisti,
Early in the 90's there was a barnfind of an Alfa 33-2 in Angola. It apeared to be chassis 033015.
When I remember right it was an Autodelta car earlier raced by Vaccarrela in the Targa Florio.
Once I have seen an article on it in Classics & Sportscar but can't find it any more.
Is there any one who can help me with the story of this car?
Was it auctioned in 1994 in England?
Last but not least, Congratulations AlfaBB !!! Lots of success!
Thanks in advance,
Jack Koobs de Hartog
(author Bizzarrini book)
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11-28-2002, 09:34 AM
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Jack
I remember reading about this car many moons ago.
It was a factory Sport-Prototype, built in 1968. Powered by a 2.5ltr V8, it ran Targa Florio, Nuremburg and was even raced by Mario Andretti at Daytona in 1968. It was eventually shipped off to run endurance races in South Africa, Rhodesia and Angolla where it was found as a rusting hulk in 1986. The car was shipped to Italy and given a complete restoration and was indeed auctioned in England to a man named Jean Francois Bentz (I am pretty sure about the name but I have been wrong before.) If memory serves, this guy Bentz was involved with the car somehow originally, he designed part of it? or something.
Please tell us more about your book!
Is it the Bizzarrini book: The Man Behind Ferrari's Success?
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11-28-2002, 12:48 PM
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Hi Alfaspider,
Thanks for your reply. Only this way we can get the story a little bit straight I think.
It was Carlo who asked my attention for the 33-2 on Motorlegend. It's a pity it is in French. You can find it on http://www.motorlegend.com/dossiers/...c2002/alfa33/i
Somehow I have my doupts about this story for I can't imagine that normal thinking people are damaging a historic, valuable, car this way.
I know the 'Angola 33' was in the bodyshop of Giordanengo in Cuneo before it was 'restored'. Would he have been that crazy to paint it in those silly colours? When I find out how to do it attach a picture.
About the Bizzarrini book. Indeed it is Bizzarrini, the man behind Ferraris success. Of course it belongs on your bookshelf ;-)
Ciao,
Jack
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11-28-2002, 01:46 PM
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Bizzarrini book
Jack,
Where can we get a copy of your book? Sounds very interesting.
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11-28-2002, 08:14 PM
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Hi Jack
While I am not sure that this can be helpful to you, I poked around the 'Net to see if I could locate any info
I did locate this website that lists chassis numbers and "very" limited info. If you visit this page http://www.classicscars.com/chassis/alfa33.htm
And scroll down a little to chassis number 015 under the 33/2 heading it says
"1968 Daytona Andretti/Bianchi .De Adamich 2500 cc engine.Angola racing car 1994 London Auction need full restoration We have the history"
I am not what "we have the history" means but perhaps soemone from that site could direct you? His contact info is:
bob@classicscars.com
Good luck.
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11-29-2002, 12:47 AM
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Simon,
Thanks for your interest in my Bizzarrini book.
Price is Euro or US$ 75,-- P&P excluded.
You can order it on my private e-mail address koobsdehartog@skynet.be
Thanks in advance
Jack
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11-29-2002, 03:47 AM
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Thanks for the tip Alfaspider. I know classicscars.com but I don't like their habit to write 'we know the story'.
I can't understand when one publishes a so called 'register' why don't they share all the relevant info they have?
Ciao,
Jack
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11-29-2002, 05:59 AM
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Hi Alfisti,
hi to all in this nice and new forum.
I hope for the administrator, that a lot of subcriptions will follow
And of course special greets to my friend Jack!
Ciao Carlo
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07-10-2003, 03:42 AM
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Jack,
I was just going thru a few old post and was wondering if you ever found your info on the Alfa 33-2 find in Angola?
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07-10-2003, 03:57 AM
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Alfa 33-2 #033015
Hi Simon,
Sorry, but no. I am still very interested in the car as I am interested in other Angola GP details.
Being the author of the Bizzarrini book, sorry no Alfa, I know Pierre de Siebenthal drove a Bizzarrini Corsa in the 1965 Angola GP.
I know the car didn't finish but I can't find any details on ths GP.
If you have any you also can answer on my e-mail address koobsdehartog@skynet.be
In that case we don't bother the Alfisti with this Bizza stuff.
Thanks for asking,
Jack
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07-10-2003, 04:23 AM
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33-2 Daytona #015
Hi Simon,
Thanks for the URL's. I still don't like the new colors they gave the car.
In my view, it would have been better when they used the old colors.
Ciao,
Jack
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