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06-03-2008, 03:43 PM
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Someone Thinks Alfa Will be a Success in the US
At the expense of BMW no less.
So in just a few short years, you'll have some choices. If you want a German car, you can go look at dozens and dozens of Volkswagens, Audis, BMWs, Mercedes, even four or five Porsches. Join the crowd! Get a 3-series. Black or silver, of course. Come on, everybody's doing it! You want to fit in, right? And you know what? Manual transmissions are a pain in traffic! They make talking on a cell phone inconvenient.
If you want the satisfaction of being just a step ahead of the pack, you'll get an Alfa Romeo, and the chances are you won't see another one like it for days, if not weeks. That exclusivity is what builds followings and, ultimately, brands.
motivemagazine.com - Motive Opinion: Alfa and Omega - True BMW guys will migrate to Alfa Romeo
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06-04-2008, 06:16 PM
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Maserati seems to be doing well at the upper end. Alfa can do the same at a slightly lower price... once they get here.
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06-08-2008, 07:56 PM
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Maserati seems to be doing well at the upper end. Alfa can do the same at a slightly lower price... once they get here.
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i agree 100%
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06-09-2008, 03:56 AM
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Just hope Alfa sorts out it dealer back-up and reliability before they launch in the US.A new Alfa is famous over here for falling apart within the first 5000km.Believe me I am speaking out of experience.Alfa has lost its famous driving appeal.My classic Spider is better quality and a true Alfa.
It makes you wonder when a Alfa parts salesman tells you the quality of new Alfa parts are so bad that sometimes the same part get exchanged 3 times.
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06-09-2008, 04:28 AM
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Great article! Thanks!
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06-09-2008, 04:48 AM
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J new Alfa is famous over here for falling apart within the first 5000km.Believe me I am speaking out of experience.Alfa has lost its famous driving appeal.My classic Spider is better quality and a true Alfa.
It makes you wonder when a Alfa parts salesman tells you the quality of new Alfa parts are so bad that sometimes the same part get exchanged 3 times.
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really?, how new Alfas you are talking about? what parts needs changing three times? my Alfas has never fallen apart
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06-09-2008, 09:53 AM
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I will start with my 2003, 147(my wife decided to protect and keep it,because I was about to get evil with it ,with a baseball bat).
MAF changed 3 times because faulty workmanship,supplied by official dealer that was when it had 2500 km!
Window winder internal mech. collapsed because of inferior materials,salesman offered to have it reconditioned and better built by local machine shop!
Leather seats faded after 2000kms,looks today like it's got 200000Kms
Their are much more,can't mention them now because I am fuming too much!!!
Mates of mine(twins)both got 159's
same problem for both;gearbox replacement just after 1500kms
front bottom suspension replacement after 4000kms
According to my favourite Alfa parts salesman these are common problems.
They are pensioners,not cafe racers.
I can go on and on,but I don't want to bore anyone.
That was only 2 models, don't get me started on the others.
Modern Alfas=ripp-off
ps.Don't mean to ripp-off any of your cars Vsix,
The reason I posted this attack on new model Alfas is because the FIAT group doesn't give a hell about Alfa Romeo,it's all about profit for them.Look what they have done to Lancia!
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06-09-2008, 10:19 AM
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Thanks for sharing, Zinhead. It is an interesting article, and it certainly makes some points:
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By contrast, look at Alfa Romeo. I predict Alfa Romeo will be an unqualified U.S. hit in the next decade (in status, not in volume), because it captures a bit of the exclusivity and cognoscenti appeal BMW once had. Of course, BMWs were always a bit more reliable: Think of the guys you knew who told stories of driving old Alfas in college, and always had to park them facing downhill because their starters had burnt up. But they weren't complaining, they were bragging. This is a brand with some real passion.
The 8C Competizione will set the tone and whet appetites when it arrives later this year, but that's only going to be sold in tiny, collector-car numbers, all deep into six figures. No, it's the ones coming after that, starting in 2010, which should cause enthusiasts to stash away a couple of extra bucks. The current 166 is sharp; the upcoming 169 sedan is stunning. More importantly, it's unique. The Brera coupe, Spider, and 159 sedan will all be head-turners in America; even the Mi.To is car-club worthy. When was the last time you did a double take for a non-M BMW? It was for the extremely rare Z8, wasn't it?
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I just came back from overseas, and had an opportunity to examine a 159 up close... It certainly looks different and very cool...
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06-09-2008, 10:53 AM
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Mates of mine(twins)both got 159's
same problem for both;gearbox replacement just after 1500kms
front bottom suspension replacement after 4000kms
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I havent heard any of these 159 problems here, my mate here has 2.2 jts and he hasnt got single problem , really good car. I think these arent so common that you can say they fall apart after 4000tkms...
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06-09-2008, 11:26 AM
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I havent heard any of these 159 problems here, my mate here has 2.2 jts and he hasnt got single problem , really good car. I think these arent so common that you can say they fall apart after 4000tkms...
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You are right,must be a southern European phenomenon,my mistake
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06-10-2008, 05:50 PM
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Maserati seems to be doing well at the upper end. Alfa can do the same at a slightly lower price... once they get here.
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Today i was working in Montreals upscale community and i was able to spot 4 Maserati Quattroporte in less than 5 hours. Not bad at all considering i didnt spot a single Jag XJ or 7series in the same time frame.
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06-12-2008, 06:39 AM
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You are right,must be a southern European phenomenon,my mistake 
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I'm sorry to hear that you have had that many problems with your alfa's but saing that its not my experience my old 145 1,6 TS drove wery nice and did only have problems with the fasevariator but ok that one needed changing 5 times in 190.000 km / 120.000 miles
My 156 did have some things that didt work right when i had it from the factory and getting that fixed took me allmost a year a 3 alfa repair shops the first 2 were filled with monkeys in overalls and when they fixed something i had the same error after 1-2 weeks.
Then i found Car Centre/novitec in copenhagen and it took them 3 times to fix it all and since then i had nothing.. absolutly nothing with the car.
now it just duracell......it goes and goes and goes and......
maby you need someone else to fix your car??
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06-12-2008, 07:01 AM
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...maby you need someone else to fix your car??
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This was the case in the U.S.A. What was often pegged as "faulty design or engineering" was more than likely just bad service. Of course, there were a few places that did know how to work on an Alfa, but it was an area where, as an organization, Alfa was lacking. I bought my '84 Spider new, and after two horrendous incidents at the dealer that I bought the car at, I started driving 180 miles to a different dealer. It certainly helps when you are able to recognize when a technician knows what he's doing or not.
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06-12-2008, 07:44 AM
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I doubt this very much but it would be great. I just hope they make it here and build some cars! Of course with the prices I won't be able to afford one (just did a build on the uk site and converted to USD ouch!) but I intend to buy one second hand after someone has owned it for 4+ years. right now I drive a ford fusion which will be replaced in a few years
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