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Old 06-12-2008, 12:07 PM
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Today i was working in Montreals upscale community and i was able to spot 4 Maserati Quattroporte in less than 5 hours. Not bad at all considering i didnt spot a single Jag XJ or 7series in the same time frame.
Saw two Maserati Q Portes yesterday and they are one of the few cars that I really like to look at. Oh and the 550 and 600 CL Benzes do look nice but other than that BMW are like ants, where there's one there are thousands.

I do love this quote from the article regarding BMW:

In the blink of an eye, they went from being fairly rare, usually driven by enthusiasts with a bit of money, to ubiquitous, driven by everybody with a bit of credit.

I really hope Alfa fixes the issues with quality, from relatives overseas and especially people I know in England they say the dealer network is rubbish.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:17 PM
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Alfa has a terrible record of providing service and parts here in the US. What makes anyone think it will change? To build the proper network needed would take billions, and Alfa, nor the parent company FIAT can afford it.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:28 PM
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Alfa has a terrible record of providing service and parts here in the US. What makes anyone think it will change? To build the proper network needed would take billions, and Alfa, nor the parent company FIAT can afford it.
It will have to change for the exact reason you stated. This is the exact reason it is taking so long.

They do not intend to make that mistake again!!!!!

If they can't well they can't end of story. But who says they can't? BMW was as terrible or worse than Alfa as manufacturer. They changed things around along with AUDI. Who says alfa can't? Partnering up will save, there are plenty of ways to make it happen.
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Gentleman.. I can understand poor service,God knows every new ALFA/FIAT owner experiences it in Europe and South Africa,but poor quality original parts is unforgivable.
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Alfa has a terrible record of providing service and parts here in the US. What makes anyone think it will change? To build the proper network needed would take billions, and Alfa, nor the parent company FIAT can afford it.
Where does this billions figure come from? I don't run an automobile importer, let alone a car company so I can't speak from experience. Technology improves productivity and it lowers costs. Whatever parts and service organization they had before can't be the same, the old one no longer exists.

Also, implying that their record will never change is absurd. Fiat, Ferrari, Maserati, Alfa and Lancia have all changed dramatically over the last 10 years and especially over the last 5. It is a mistake to assume that because it was one way a long time ago, it will be exactly the same again.
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It amazes me how some people get so irritated and can't stand that a positive Alfa article (the subject of this thread) has been published...

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Saw two Maserati Q Portes yesterday and they are one of the few cars that I really like to look at. Oh and the 550 and 600 CL Benzes do look nice but other than that BMW are like ants, where there's one there are thousands.

I do love this quote from the article regarding BMW:

In the blink of an eye, they went from being fairly rare, usually driven by enthusiasts with a bit of money, to ubiquitous, driven by everybody with a bit of credit.

I really hope Alfa fixes the issues with quality, from relatives overseas and especially people I know in England they say the dealer network is rubbish.

Spotted another two this morning being driven by rather hot older women, wow do they look better in a Mazzzzz than a Benz, god bless Pininfarina!
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I havent owned an Alfa in 2 years, but I still come back here every so often to look at cars for sale. Since the time when I first road an Alfa in '95, there has been talk of them coming back to the US. I remember hearing 2000, then 2002, then 04, 08.... I even remember when fake "Autodelta" was importing them and all of the cars were confiscated, or shipped out of the country.

The day I believe that Alfa Romeo is coming back to the USA is the day that I seem them on this dirt being sold as legal vehicles.

(I cant wait to hear why they wont make the trip over this time...)
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:26 AM
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in a few months you can go down to your local masarati dealer and look at the 8c....
I think it has to go pretty wrong if they are not comming back to us this time, but ok they will only come if they think they can make money, its as simple as that.
The new MiTo is made to be abe to comply to US crash tests and that should be an indication that maby its a bit more than just talk this time.
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