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View Poll Results: Your tensioner type on that 12v V6 Alfa engine
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Original Oil Fed OEM Tensioner
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29.17% |
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Oil-less modified oil fed tensioner
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16.67% |
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New style spring loaded mechancial tensioner
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54.17% |
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Fixed type such as Zat tensioner
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02-09-2006, 12:10 PM
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One of my Verdes has the original oil-fed tensioner which still works well. The other one has a new-fangled mechanical tensioner.
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02-09-2006, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nizam
Also, since the bearings are interchangeable with the newer 24v bearings, its longevity and serviceability will outlast the "updated" mechanical tensioners.
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Not quite so easy! About a month ago, I have compared the hydraulic tensioner bearing with the 24V timing belt bearing side by side and I had posted a picture in another post. Yes, they have the same SKF bearings on them, but the center mounting pieces are different. It didn't appear to me that it was that straight forward to press out the 24V bearing without damaging the bearing unless one also destroys the center piece. So, I made the switch from a hydraulic tensioner to a mechanical one. I now have 4 12V's (2 164's and 2 Milanos) that all use mechanical tensioners.
The hydraulic tensioner does appear to be much stronger and I think it puts more tension on the timing belt. When I switched over, I used gasket sealant on the oil plug so it probably will not be that hard for me to switch back - that is, if I can find a good replacement bearing!
Bob
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02-10-2006, 06:40 AM
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Bob I pressed out that different center eccentric piece on both 24v and 12v bearings no problem.
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02-10-2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Alfisto Steve
Bob I pressed out that different center eccentric piece on both 24v and 12v bearings no problem.
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So they are not that tight - I guess!
The inner bearing ring is covered by the top side of the eccentric piece on one side. To press the center piece out, one has to support the bearing at the outer ring. But by doing this, it will put pressure on the balls inside that will in turn hold the inner ring. If the center piece requires a lot of pressure before it moves then this might damage the internal of the bearing. That's why I was reluctant and thought it is not easy to do!
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02-12-2006, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackAlfa
So they are not that tight - I guess!
The inner bearing ring is covered by the top side of the eccentric piece on one side. To press the center piece out, one has to support the bearing at the outer ring. But by doing this, it will put pressure on the balls inside that will in turn hold the inner ring. If the center piece requires a lot of pressure before it moves then this might damage the internal of the bearing. That's why I was reluctant and thought it is not easy to do!
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I still think the mechanical type is better IF installed correctly.
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02-12-2006, 09:24 AM
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Mine will have an OEM hydraulic one next week sometime.
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