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turn signal flasher unit
Anyone found a source or suitable substitute for the three-prong cylindrical flasher unit that plugs into the fuse box?
Thanks
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01-05-2008, 06:59 AM
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I would think that you could use just about any three prong relay as they are pretty much standard.As long as the prongs are marked the same and it will fit in the panel you should be golden. I'll try to dig in the garage today or tomorrow for one if you need it. I have several extra fuse panels for Alfettas and some Milano boxes also. I'm sure that I can come up with one somewhere. Heck I think I even have a box from a Maserati Quattroporte.
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01-05-2008, 01:40 PM
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I'm sure there's one in the parts car I dragged home from Utah.....if you want to take a chance on a used one I'll send it down to ya!
Just let me know........
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01-05-2008, 03:24 PM
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GT601 I found a new three prong at my local parts store and tried it but no joy. However, I noticed that if I activated the emergency flashers using the center console switch I get a weak warbling buzz from the new flasher unit (nothing from the old one)- sounds like a sad, tired seat belt buzzer. Same noise if I try the turn signals as well. Now I'm wondering if it's the emergency flasher switch, or something else.
fetta78, appreciate the offer, let me do some more troubleshooting first.
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01-05-2008, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gt601
As long as the prongs are marked the same...
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This is key! The P, L and + terminals of the new flasher MUST match with the P, L and + wires in the fusebox. Are the terminal designations on the old and new flashers in the same locations?
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01-05-2008, 07:19 PM
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The P, L and + terminals of the new flasher MUST match with the P, L and + wires in the fusebox. Are the terminal designations on the old and new flashers in the same locations?
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Sorry, didn't make that clear enough. I wasn't sure as to the prong labeling since the 'Fetta is in storage. I will do a check tomorrow and update. You may have a bad emergency switch because if I am correct the turn signals go through the hazard switch?
Paul
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01-06-2008, 03:54 AM
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Papajam P, L, + is all new to me, thanks for the tip, will check. Paul, yes I believe if the hazard switch is bad it could affect the turn signals.
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01-06-2008, 04:38 AM
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the turn signal circuit only goes through the hazard switch on 84 onwards. Its seperate pre 84. What you do need to do, is check the switches is the steering column too. clean them, as any resistance will casue small current loss, which makes the flasher irratic too.
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01-06-2008, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by La Voce
P, L, + is all new to me,...
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To be more specific, the + (or the letter X) is battery voltage into the flasher and L is the Load (the turn signal bulbs). The P terminal/wire is used solely to flash the indicator light on the dash. These terminal/wire designations are common to many vehicles. However, due to different internal physical characteristics depending on the manufacturer of the flasher, the P, L and + terminals may not be in the same locations. Hence to need to compare the old and new flasher terminal locations.
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...yes I believe if the hazard switch is bad it could affect the turn signals.
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It would appear from numerous wiring diagrams that the turn signal and hazard circuits are of the parallel type. Basically, this means that there are two separate switches, with two separate power sources, powering a common load though a common flasher. Theoretically, either switch could be removed from the circuit and the other switch would operate it's assigned circuit as intended.
To test if the hazard switch would effect the turn signal circuit, first identify the + and L wires in the fusebox. Then fashion a jumper wire and connect the + and L terminals together (this jumper is simply bypassing the flasher). Engage the right turn signals. The turn signal bulbs should light (but not flash). If so, the hazard switch is not effecting the turn signals (and the cause for your turn signals not working is the flasher/flasher wiring). If not, further diagnosis is required.
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01-06-2008, 12:05 PM
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Thanks All! Will check and advise.
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01-09-2008, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by La Voce
Papajam P, L, + is all new to me, thanks for the tip, will check. Paul, yes I believe if the hazard switch is bad it could affect the turn signals.
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I just went outside and pulled the cylindrical fuse/relay for the flashers on my '79 SV and if it's not there, neither the turn signals nor the hazard lights will work. I've also got a couple spares if need be...
FYI/trivia - if you ever notice the green light for the turn signal in your gauge cluster flashes only once when you're activating the turn switch - it means you have a light out/or the bulb's not making a connection...
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01-09-2008, 07:01 PM
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Thanks! Spares? Meaning you'll sell me one? 
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01-10-2008, 09:21 AM
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I'll send you one for free if you just cover the shipping... But let me pull them out and test them in my car first. 
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'75 Alfetta Sedan ( rosso)
'69 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1,3 S ( rosso)
'92 Ducati 900SS giallo
gone but not forgotten
'79 Alfetta Sprint Veloce( luci del bosco)
'77 Alfetta Sedan ( nero)
'76 Alfetta Sedan ( argento metallizzato)
'86 VW Scirocco 8v
'72 Honda CB500/4
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01-10-2008, 02:48 PM
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Yes I will be happy to cover the shipping, thank you!
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01-11-2008, 10:07 AM
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Jim, I'm sorry to report that both my spares are shot. One completely, and the other sounds/looks like it's shorting out - it makes the flashers go hyper-disco.  So sorry if I got your hopes up...
Somebody else got a good one laying about they can donate to a worthy cause?? 
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'75 Alfetta Sedan ( rosso)
'69 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1,3 S ( rosso)
'92 Ducati 900SS giallo
gone but not forgotten
'79 Alfetta Sprint Veloce( luci del bosco)
'77 Alfetta Sedan ( nero)
'76 Alfetta Sedan ( argento metallizzato)
'86 VW Scirocco 8v
'72 Honda CB500/4
Pics! http://www.flickr.com/photos/13463758@N04/?saved=1
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