04-15-2007, 10:56 AM
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GTV6SA: Cantīt agree there at all. Fiat had no influence on Autodelta policy at the time of the GTV8. The reason the GTV8 was not raced is that they did not build the 400 pcs necessary for homologation. The reason for this was that production of the Montreal engine was ended at the time they would start building the GTV8.
The GTV8 engine was not at Tipo 33 engine, but a 3L Montreal engine modified from boat racing. This engine had flat crank, injection and about 340Hp at around 8500 rpm. This rpm is still OK for the transaxle
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04-15-2007, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GTV6SA
when The Alfetta GTV8 " la bomba" rally car was developed by Autodelta, it was deemed to fast and the head of Fiat/Lancia rally asked Chiti to withdraw the car fearing it would would "dominate rallying as it was faster then the Lancia stratos which dominated at the time , they alos feared that the car was too powerful as happened during the later Group B era. The engne was not based on a Montreal engine but was a version of the tipo 33 with a flat plane crank running up to 10,000 rpm
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It were mainly budgetary reasons and the 400 cars they had to make and sell for homologation in GR.4 .
If there was a conversation between the head of Fiat/Lancia and Chiti and he withdraw the GT V8 from GR.4 in '77 ( I believe that was the last time it was entered in a rally by Autodelta ) why would he enter the even if not more powerfull Alfetta Turbodelta in GR.4 in '79 ?
To Vince and Gabor : thanks for the info about the brake system !
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04-15-2007, 11:30 AM
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Maybe an intresting link about Evan Green :
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~groggo/evan%20green.html
@Vince : could it be that the Green / Bryson Alfetta GT was a GR.2 instead of GR.4 ?
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04-16-2007, 05:25 AM
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Here 2 pictures from the GTV 3000 Rally with Andruet on the "Rallye de Touraine" in 1976.
http://jc.andruet.free.fr/
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04-16-2007, 08:34 AM
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Nice photos, Walt, anyone seen others?
Here a photo of the no.2 car in Holland.
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04-17-2007, 01:52 AM
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Thank you to all contributors to this thread. It has been a feast for the eyes and the mind - just how I'm going to live without a V8 GTV now I don't know 
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10-14-2007, 04:49 PM
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How much is a Montreal V8 "worth", anyway?
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10-14-2007, 11:48 PM
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Price of a normal car around here is about 25.000 USD.
Here prices in Germany:
http://www.mobile.de/SIDq1bNgF9SctqZ...&doSearch.y=12
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he wasnt asking about a monty itself...just the engine.......i can see the gears turning on that one and would LOVE to get my hands on a monty v8 to dump in my gtv6
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10-15-2007, 03:12 AM
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The engine- well hard to say, they are very scarce. Have not seen an offer for long time. The Monti guys are buying them as reserve engines for their cars. Just a figure I would guess of 3-3500USD for an engine with the injection pump. You could put it in a 116GTV as it is with 200Hp, but a more attractive prospect would to rebuild to 3L 300Hp and EFI. Then you could double or triple the final price...
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04-03-2008, 09:05 AM
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Nice! Do you have other photos still?
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05-08-2008, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabor K.
Nice photos, Walt, anyone seen others?
Here a photo of the no.2 car in Holland.
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i love those campy wheel much more than the original multipiece speedlines.
here's my set that i'll be putting on for sale in a few weeks for the lucky guys that have these wicked GR4 cars or people that want to do a convincing a replica
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