11-02-2009, 10:46 PM
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The hottest I've ever seen is maybe around 190 - basically a tick past 175 on the gauge. Even when I ran laps on the track with my '77 - it never got that hot (and the outside temp was sometimes pushing 95).
Yeah - the mk 1 sedans always draw nice compliments - but I wouldn't hold your breath on the prices going up drastically for some time to come. They've been languishing in the same territory for almost 20 years now.  I'd love to see them get some better press! |
11-02-2009, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sfalfa
Yeah - the mk 1 sedans always draw nice compliments - but I wouldn't hold your breath on the prices going up drastically for some time to come. They've been languishing in the same territory for almost 20 years now. I'd love to see them get some better press! |
jeff, you should've driven down for the show.
other oddities: i think only 2 milanos in the show. (but 3 fiat dino coupe convertibles & 3 iso rivoltas! how strange is that?) and last year, no alfetta sedans and 2 bizzarinis!
coming soon, alfetta sedans are rarer than bizzarinis!
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11-03-2009, 10:04 AM
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yeah, but come on, they are so much better than berlinas and look what's happened to them in the past few years. also, the tightening smog issues and all that have drastically affected the number left. i think everyone thought they weren't worth saving and just abandoned them and now they have become very rare. i mean it's a little strange when there's a big show like the french & italian car show and i'm the only mark I and there's only 1 other mark 2 in the whole show. my car's a beater and i sort of entered it as a joke but i'm glad that i did since only 1 other sedan showed.
jeff, you should've driven down for the show.
other oddities: i think only 2 milanos in the show. (but 3 fiat dino coupe convertibles & 3 iso rivoltas! how strange is that?) and last year, no alfetta sedans and 2 bizzarinis!
coming soon, alfetta sedans are rarer than bizzarinis!
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Unfortunately - rarity doesn't equal value. The Berlina's are based on the GTV mechanicals and have a lot more aftermarket support. With that brings more exposure of cars being used on the road and track, and with exposure brings cult status and $$$. Though I'd sure love to be proven wrong some day! You don't have convince me they are better than Berlinas and...ahem...Giulias (ducking... ). I never got the appeal of either of those cars and I've driven both! Then again I like sharp but subtle designs, the Ferrari 400/412 being a good example 
One of these days I WILL make it down there for the show. I'm originally from San Diego and I've driven the Alfa down there a couple times - but it's always a sweaty, teeth-clenching journey of "will I make it?" (so far - so good). Right now - it's not going anywhere until I get some relays installed on everything - it keeps refusing to start at unpredictable intervals, but always at a bad time/place!
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11-03-2009, 05:31 PM
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so anyway where were we...ah, yes, 225 degrees or so. Bob, please change your head gasket before it is too late.
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11-03-2009, 06:32 PM
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so anyway where were we...ah, yes, 225 degrees or so. Bob, please change your head gasket before it is too late.
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i mean changing the head gasket wouldn't do anything about the high temps, would it? i still think it's the radiator.
and has anyone else noticed the split radiator with the bottom half hot and the top half cool?
and then how do i know my gauge is accurate?
and there is no way i'm going to pull this engine apart to replace a head gasket if i get stuck in the same situation as with my milano: that is that everyone then says, "well, since you have it apart, you might as well replace xxxx and yyyy," and then i have another car that never gets finished. not trying to be stubborn but alfetta is old enough to fend for herself! and i can't believe that simply seeing 225 is enough to kill the head gasket. who would ever own a car that did things like that???
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11-04-2009, 03:43 AM
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Bob, on my Alfetta I replaced or confirmed proper operation of every component in my cooling system but in the end replacing the head gasket, and weldment repair of corroded cooling jacket areas on the head surface, is what finally solved the problem. Specifically what happened to me is that engine compression, forced through the failing gasket and cooling jackets in the corroded head, was not allowing the coolant to flow in the direction the pump was trying to push it- reverse pressurization if you will. The result is that the coolant never gets exchanged in the engine once she fully pressurizes and she runs cooler at cruise speeds and low rpm where airflow assists, but overheats in stop and go traffic. A sign of this failure is when, with a hot idling engine, you have a rock hard upper radiator hose that cannot be compressed by hand that upon shut down, can then be compressed with resultant air bubbles in the coolant reservoir, or simply the presence of air bubbles in your coolant reservoir immediately after hot engine shutdown, anytime.
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11-17-2009, 02:35 PM
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I think what the problem with Alfetta GTs is that there's no way for hot air to get out of the engine compartment. They need vents in the hood. I have a TwinSpark in mine and it's a half inch too tall for the hood to close properly, so I've got the hood cocked open just a bit and it never gets past 180 even while sitting in traffic. I do have an electric cooling fan pulling air through the radiator though. -Clark
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