GTV6 Brake Pads

[dsb_dsb]

I'm just curious what others thoughts were with 'performance' brake pads on a GTV6. I take mine to track days regularly.

Recently, I went to Road America and REALLY finished off the pads, so I'm in the market for new pads. Wear was small, predictable and never a problem at smaller road courses, but Road America, well...

I had Porterfield R4-S on all 4 corners and was happy with them, but am just curious about other's thoughts on Carbotech, Hawk, etc.

Thanks.

[Gabor K.]

Don´t know those you mention, here we use Pagid and Ferodo.
On my racer I use EBC(with Wilwood calipers), but for the road car they only deliver regular pads unfortunately. Otherwise the yellow EBC pads would be very good for this car. Maybe they can deliver on special order?

[MALDI]

I use Porterfield R4-S at Summit Point and VIR and have not had any problems with them. They are rotor-friendly and don't fade. They are OK for street use but need some heat in them.

BTW I use Motul 600 RBF and have been satsified as well.

Brake system is stock, as is the car so we aren't talking major hosepower increases here.

I did add a heat wrap to the exhaust near the right rear caliper. Now when I bleed that caliper there are no bubbles.

[dsb_dsb]

I switched to RBF 600 this year. I added a blower to blow air on the rear calipers this year, and that seemed to help some, too (seriously; Amazon.com: Rule 140 Marine Bilge Blower (3-Inch, Inline): Sports & Outdoors).

The other tracks I frequent (Waterford Hills and Grattan) in Michigan are 1.4 and 2 miles in length, respectively. Road America is 4 mile long, so you can get a lot of speed in a few spots, which you then have to scrub off...

Maybe I'll stick with the R4-S, and if I got to Road America again, bump it up a notch as far as pads.

[Zinhead]

I use the Carbotechs autocross pads which work pretty well with no fade and minimal wear. They are noisy on the street though.

[gday]

I was really happy with the carbotech autocross pads. To me they really transformed the braking system into something very effective. Like Zinhead said though, they can squeek a bit on light low speed braking.

[racingswim2006]

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsb_dsb The other tracks I frequent (Waterford Hills and Grattan) in Michigan are 1.4 and 2 miles in length, respectively. Road America is 4 mile long, so you can get a lot of speed in a few spots, which you then have to scrub off... Maybe I'll stick with the R4-S, and if I got to Road America again, bump it up a notch as far as pads.

[kanga]

Why don't you try htpp://shop.alfisti.net they sell EBC pads for the GTV6 and are a very reliable supplier.

[oz3litre]

I had EBC Greenstuff pads fitted to the front of the 164, along with new disks and they stop really well. However they are noisy at slow speeds and when reversing. I need to take them off and sand them and the disks to see if it quietens them down. Their claims about shortening your braking distance are true. I always know when my wife pulls into the driveway!

[Duk]

I personally think that EBC pads are over rated.

Well I thought they were OK. Until I went to get some from the local brake epert for my Volvo caliper/164 rotor upgrade in my 75. I had bought EBC Green Stuff from these guys before for my other cars, but they said they weren't selling them anymore because they weren't happy with the wear characteristics of EBC pads.

So I went with the brand they now reccomend 'Race Brakes'.
The only pad they offered for the Volvo calipers were their road/track (forget the actual terminollogy) pads. I was initially a bit skeptical about using these pads on a road only Alfa, but after bedding them in I can comfortably say they are a better pad even when cold than the EBC Green Stuffs in my Nissan Silvia. Given the Silvia has Skyline 4 pison calipers and rotor about the same diameter as the 164 rotors and it weighs less than the 75, I'm impressed with the Race Brakes pads and will use them again in my rear brake upgrade in the 75.
At hotter temperatures, it's also the Race Brakes (but that's only road driving ).

*Pads are Race Brakes RB74

[Travis_k]

In my experience, EBC green pads work well, but have a very short life. I have carbotech bobcat pads on my milano, and although i dont use the brakes hard all the time, i think they work pretty well. The carbotech panther pads are good if you want something more agressive, but they will eat your rotors very quickly.

[Gabor K.]

EBC green stuff(not available for GTV6), I tried on a different car. After having warped 3 sets of discs I got the message that they had a production failiure of some of the green stuff pads. The wrong composition obviously was the reason of too high temperatures and disc warping. As the last solution I bought EBC yellow pads and their best rotors for this car. A real improvement over standard and the EBC green stuff. Now I have brakes!
Incidentally we use EBC yellows on the GTV6 racer and an Audi A4 turbo quattro also and feel the same positive brake function. So I can recommend EBC yellow, if its on the list for your car.

info:

Yellowstuff Brake Pads 4000 "R" Series

[dsb_dsb]

Thanks for the opinions.
Regarding the Carbotech pads, I looked at the website and it says that you should resurface any rotor that will be used with Carbotech pads, outside of any bedding of the brake pads. Have all the Carbotech-ites done this?

I'd concede it probably won't hurt anything to do that, but as a recommendation, it seems odd.

[Travis_k]

I have only used carbotech pads twice, both with new rotors.

[gtv27]

i use rb74 on my 105 racer - brakes are very good - would like to try them in my gtv6 - it has standard at the moment (temporarly relegated to road duties) and they suck - had ds2500 in previously when i used it for sprints and they pulled up ok, but (as I've put in another thread on this) went all crumbly around the edges, which i suspect was overheating - which is what you get when you bring a 1200kg car from 160km/h to 80km/h four times within 2km three times in a row.