South African GTV6 3 litre - history and Registry

[Barryh]

The S.A. 30L gtv6.

[Gabor K.]

Yes they are clearly different and mine are 3 pc modular CX 15"¨. So..?

Ok intially the wheels from photos looked like 2pc Compomotive modulars. Have amplified the photo in Car article and it could seem that the outer rim is actually pressed/wrapped over the center piece. Well, hard to be sure from a photo. So it could be a 3 piece after all, but with different inpress on the outer rim than I have.

[arguti]

Barry

Fantastic information and exactly the kind of details I was looking for...do you know anybody who has air filters or a set of original wheels for one of these? My Dad lives in Cape Town so I am quite happy to arrange collection/transport, etc?

I am quite happy to help sending parts you need from the UK if that is relevant.

thanks

[Barryh]

Well, headed over to chat to Sampie this morning only to find that he had taken the week of to relax a bit..Ill chat to him next Monday.

Mr Gabor K ,Ill get back to you regarding the engine..Need to jiggle the old memory first. The wheels ARE three peice CX Compomotives. If you really want to break them down they actually consist of an inner, an outer, the center dish, a spacer containing two grooves for the fitment of two "o" rings and of course , a pile of nuts and bolts.
Sealing these were always a problem and we usually seal them from the inside once they all assembled.
We also had a few cars fitted with the Compomotive FX center..A 5 star design.These were not factory but after market only.

Mr Arguti, I still have a ton of 30l stuff at home..Ive sold all 3 sets of wheels unfortunately. Airfilter housings are a dime a dozen, I have available.I also have carbs in as new condition.

My mate Kevin has just made a run of bonnets and spoilers .Fortom is getting some from him I believe. If you are interested I will make details available to you..

[Gabor K.]

Mr Barry h : trying to help jiggle you memory with a link to your photo. Not necessary to hijack Mr. Argutis thread about this matter though. Possibly you could PM me when memory clears up.

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/pict...e-pics-13.html


About the SA GTV 3L, there is also an other matter. At first one can see the old divided dash and also it was told that the cars had no aircondition because then the racers also would need to have it, so it was not installed. However I have seen a car with the new integrated dash and with aircondition. Do you have any idea how the cars were equipped with regards to dash and aircon. ?

[daz]

Never mind pm the engine conversion put it on here so we can all see it

[daz]

BTW barry do you have any 3.0 carburetted cylinder heads i have the 2.5 but not the 3.0l

[Barryh]

Aah yes..The engine is Fernandos 3.6l 24v..Check it running on the TOOB , Xenithonman..
It broke its crank a while back and its being redone atm..The plenum is basically two std plenums cut and welded together for a bigger volume..The outlets are also made larger and measure in at 46mm o.d./43 i.d.
The throttle body now measures 92mm and gives an additional 24hp at 7400 rpm..Ultimately the plenum is too shallow for good airflow and needs to be higher.

Daz, yes, I do..but forget those and work with the Nord 20l intakes on the v6..Exhausts are good enough with a good flowed runner..

[Barryh]

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Originally Posted by Gabor K. Mr Barry h : trying to help jiggle you memory with a link to your photo. Not necessary to hijack Mr. Argutis thread about this matter though. Possibly you could PM me when memory clears up. http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/pict...e-pics-13.html About the SA GTV 3L, there is also an other matter. At first one can see the old divided dash and also it was told that the cars had no aircondition because then the racers also would need to have it, so it was not installed. However I have seen a car with the new integrated dash and with aircondition. Do you have any idea how the cars were equipped with regards to dash and aircon. ?

[Gabor K.]

Barryh: Also the exhaust headers seem to be different from anything else, by running 3 tubes through the joint next to the engine. Normally on the 24V headers the 3 tubes merge before the joint and just one tube going through, but not this one. Is it possible to contact somebody to get more info about reproducing the parts?

About the 3L SA dash, I read that on the homologation cars there was no aircon because they wanted to save weight on the racers. If the production cars had the aircon the racers had to run with that also.
Are you saying it was the other way around - that all homologation cars had aircon and that also the racers ran with them?

A photo of the dash of the 3L car tested in Car magazine - look, divided dash and no aircon.

And: Arguti how is your car regarding these items?

[Jacques-Pierre]

Barry
Was there any difference in brakes, torsion bars ant anti-roll bars between the 3l and 2.5l? I heard there were, but they always looked identical to me.

[arguti]

Gabor

The CAR magazine IIRC was from 1983 when the 3 litre model was just launched hence the old split dash. The later cars like mine have the integrated dash and mine also has airconditioning.

I must be honest and say that I have not even yet sat in my car as when I saw the for sale advert, I immediately “dispatched” Alex Jupe (Alex Jupe Motorsport :: Alfa Romeo GTV6 / 75 servicing, upgrades, track preparation & cars for sale) with trailer (towed of course by a GTV6) and the necessary funds to go inspect, negotiate, buy and re-commission the car as I have been after one of these for quite a while and I am well aware of the pitfalls of buying a potential moneypit as opposed to a good car. Well worth the money spent in my opinion.

Unfortunately my car’s progress has been delayed by my leaving further projects on Alex’s doorstep in the meantime and I will post photos and more information when I collect hopefully mid-October. PS I know of another of these cars potentially for sale in the UK, completely unwelded and unmolested, dry stored for a number of years although the asking price is likely to be over $20,000 as it should be.

[SimonDB]

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Originally Posted by arguti I know of another of these cars potentially for sale in the UK, completely unwelded and unmolested, dry stored for a number of years although the asking price is likely to be over $20,000 as it should be.

[ti1103]

The alloy picture shown is a three piece unit. Alex Jupe has the facts

[Gabor K.]

Thanks for that ti. However there are some differences compared with my Compomotive CX 3pc modulars, as seen on my photo. Could you post a real close up of the SA wheel to see how they are made?