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Old 09-22-2004, 07:37 AM
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164 engine in GTV6 plenum conversion

Howdy Folks,
I've got a 164 L engine I've been trying to sell with no luck, so I guess I'll drop it in one of my GTV6 bodies. Does anyone who has done the conversion have photos of the plenum mods ? Anyone want to do it for me as a paid job ? There are no pro welders with imagination up here.
Plus I guess I'll need a 3.0 flywheel if anyone has one to sell.

p.s. I've got 2 rustfree GTV6s for sale as well as a clean Milano Verde and a 1977 rustfree Spider. Any interest??
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Old 10-31-2004, 07:54 AM
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Go to the following link and check out what Larry Dickman Jr. did with a 24V install. Should be pretty close to the same with a 12V as the intake/exhaust geometry is the same. Larry Jr's Projects

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Old 11-01-2004, 07:50 PM
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Hey, HMA!

These are going to be some very interesting threads for you to study… I am with you – If you are going to do a 164 engine transplant, then you should do a Milano/GTV6 intake conversion… There are some really nice pictures of 50mm intake runners under the “Third Set of Pics” thread below….

Study these threads real well – interesting stuff…

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/show...8&page=1&pp=15

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/milano-75-1985-1993/7120-parts-list-stock-24-valve-milano-gtv6-conversions.html

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/milano-75-1985-1993/7121-performance-engine-upgrades.html

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/milano-75-1985-1993/7046-just-few-pics-get-going.html

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/milano-75-1985-1993/7294-2nd-batch-sa-pictures.html

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/show...?t=7423&page=1

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Old 11-03-2004, 11:31 AM
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Would you mind throwing up some pics of the 3 cars you got for sale and some prices? please and thank you
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Howdy Folks,
I've got a 164 L engine I've been trying to sell with no luck, so I guess I'll drop it in one of my GTV6 bodies. Does anyone who has done the conversion have photos of the plenum mods ? Anyone want to do it for me as a paid job ? There are no pro welders with imagination up here.
Plus I guess I'll need a 3.0 flywheel if anyone has one to sell.

p.s. I've got 2 rustfree GTV6s for sale as well as a clean Milano Verde and a 1977 rustfree Spider. Any interest??
Would love to see the some pics of the gtv6's and spider as my neighbor needs medicate his need for an alfa.

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Old 11-30-2004, 06:11 AM
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Glenn,

You've seen this before, but here's a picture of my 164 plenum with some throttle area added...
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:19 AM
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Peter

Do you find that a little sharp on the throttle response???
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:45 AM
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Part throttle? What's part throttle?!?!

Yes, it's pretty much snap-your-head-back from a dead stop. I've tuned the drivability pretty well with the EMS.

The unsprung clutch is probably more the cause than the throttle area. I'm going to devise a transitional linkage over the winter to open them one at a time.

More pictures of the fabrication at http://home.comcast.net/~webb.p/install

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Old 11-30-2004, 12:11 PM
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Thats a cool, clean looking set-up there Peter. Can you fit 3 K&N filters on the throttle bodies in that space?

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With a little help from Home Depot you can

I used 3" PVC to make the elbows to get them to clear.
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Old 11-30-2004, 12:46 PM
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HMA- I'm surprised you missed this car- it was at the convention in July. Couldn't miss it on the track- it spent a lot of time off and going sideways

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Old 11-30-2004, 12:59 PM
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HMA- I'm surprised you missed this car- it was at the convention in July. Couldn't miss it on the track- it spent a lot of time off and going sideways

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Yep, after the first off I later discovered I'd bent things under the car. It was all downhill after that. Couldn't keep it going straight. When it got to the timed runs, I was just trying to keep it in one peice to get me home.

Shouldn't have really had it out there. Tires were on their last legs which led to the initial spin in the bowl. The right front wheel hit that big rock sitting on the inside of the exit which caused the damage.

Lots of work to get it right for Road America, only to have the head gasket let go in the first practice session. There's always next year.

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Old 12-01-2004, 07:45 AM
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Ah the "HYDRA" set-up.
Now that you mention it E, I did see it in the parking garage at the convention. I unfortunatly spent most of my time in my booth and didn't get to the track. If I had, I probably would have killed my road GTV6 there !!
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Old 12-01-2004, 08:52 AM
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Hydra?

Remember discussing it at my MegaSquirt tech session Glenn?

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Old 12-01-2004, 01:44 PM
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Sorry Peter, I was being flip. It was an allusion to the mythical many headed beast. It is a cool set-up and I give you kudos for pioneering new horsepower avenues for these fabulous 6 cylinder beasts !!

And yes, I was there and very impressed.
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