Go Back   Alfa Romeo Bulletin Board & Forums > Alfa Romeo Technical Forums > Alfa trucks, buses, marine, aviation, rail & industrial


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

  #16 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2007, 06:21 PM
BEAR BEAR is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
Post 1 : Fabolous picture
Post 6 : Yes , buschassis
Post 7 : Marzotto untill ended in 54
Post 11 : Same car , meaning production : 1
Perhaps a Bartoletti build car , but no confirmation yet

More to follow on Alfa Corse !
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2007, 07:07 PM
dretceterini's Avatar
dretceterini dretceterini is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 5,297
BEAR=BE-lgian Alfa Romeo=Olczyk??
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2007, 07:12 PM
DaveH's Avatar
DaveH DaveH is offline
OO≡≡≡<°>≡≡≡OO
Platinum Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 773
Similar odd placement of punctuation marks....
__________________
'85 GTV6
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2007, 08:48 PM
Alfa_Japan's Avatar
Alfa_Japan Alfa_Japan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Hiroshima, Japan
Posts: 30
@BEAR, thanks for your input to this interesting thread. Even though Bartoletti made many (race) car transporters I hardly believe that this/these vehicles are made by Bartoletti. I'd like to proven wrong by somebody in this thread, I realy want to know who made the body
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2007, 11:56 PM
BEAR BEAR is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
Post 2 , thanks for the newer Alfa transporter here , not seen before.

Post 7 , 48-51 is to me not a short while afterall its 4 season , and I was surprised on the 48 Luxemboirg picture date.

Post 12 kind words from dretceterini , but to call me an expert is an exaggeration , a specialist would be more appropriate as I do mostly in transporters up to 1970.

The third and second last posts is not for my lonely brain cell!

Latest post : I only suggested Bartoletti because I have yet to see big car build by the other Italians. And Bartoletti started thereabout , but as it was common all over Europe at that time a lot af small garages did special build ups , and it might as well be the coacgbuilder who made the buses. I am however hoping for a break in acces somewhere to som special info very soon .
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 11-01-2007, 09:51 AM
BEAR BEAR is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
For the 1953 Le Mans race Alfa Romeo used their own Autotransporter for their 6-7 cars. Before when going to F1 races with the Alfettas they often were supported by their own make of normal low sided trucks , 2 axle. They even in 1950 seams to have used a Dodge 1947 tilted.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 11-01-2007, 10:27 AM
tubut's Avatar
tubut tubut is offline
Senior Member
Platinum Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 2,521
Quote:
Originally Posted by BEAR View Post
For the 1953 Le Mans race Alfa Romeo used their own Autotransporter for their 6-7 cars.
I recall there was a great picture of this transporter in the 6C3000 CM thread. The picture was lost in the server crash. Unfortunately, I don't remember who posted it.
__________________
Ruedi
'63 2600 Touring Spider (apart)
'65 2600 SZ (resto project)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 11-10-2007, 12:52 AM
AlfaRonny's Avatar
AlfaRonny AlfaRonny is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Belgium
Posts: 597
1953 LE MANS
This is probably the picture you're mentioning, Ruedi.
I believe it was posted by Boudewijn, who has posted many great unseen pictures before.
Attached Images
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 11-10-2007, 01:00 AM
tubut's Avatar
tubut tubut is offline
Senior Member
Platinum Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 2,521
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlfaRonny View Post
1953 LE MANS
This is probably the picture you're mentioning, Ruedi.
I believe it was posted by Boudewijn, who has posted many great unseen pictures before.
Yes, that's the picture I remember. Thank you for posting it.
__________________
Ruedi
'63 2600 Touring Spider (apart)
'65 2600 SZ (resto project)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 11-12-2007, 11:23 PM
BEAR BEAR is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
I have yet to find anything on the Alfa 800 Ferrari/Marzotto ! Could it be a SICCA bodywork then ?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2007, 05:38 PM
dretceterini's Avatar
dretceterini dretceterini is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 5,297
Quote:
Originally Posted by BEAR View Post
I have yet to find anything on the Alfa 800 Ferrari/Marzotto ! Could it be a SICCA bodywork then ?
I am not sure who made the coachwork. Gila model in Italy made a 1/43rd scale model of the truck in both Scuderia Ferrari and Marzotto versions. The models are LONG obsolite, but I am trying to get some made. I will ask the owner of Gila if he knows who actually made the coachwork. It is certainly possible he does not know, and made the models only from photos....

The Gulp model Scuderia Ferrari truck:

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/atta...rrarifront.jpg

The Gulp model Scuderia Marzotto truck:

http://gulpmodel.interfree.it/img/gila233.jpg

Last edited by dretceterini; 11-13-2007 at 07:40 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2007, 10:30 PM
BEAR BEAR is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
Good idea trying to ask modelmanufacturers , I only tried such onces , with no luck!

I am hoping to get into contact with someone who might have acces to something , will say no more before it turns out to be right!

Also trying to find what Alfa had in the 30s (when the Sc.Ferrari more or less were the "works"team) ,so far up to 1938 when they took over the Ferrari yellow vans , I found nothing ! Later Autodelta could follow here (or now!)

Lets have all with Alfa Romeo Corse/Spa/Autodelta in transporters............
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 05:34 AM
Alfa_Japan's Avatar
Alfa_Japan Alfa_Japan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Hiroshima, Japan
Posts: 30
@ dretceterini; as mentioned in one of my earlier posts Gila was forbidden to keep on making the Ferrari version of the Alfa 800A transporter. Only very few were made when the production was forbidden. If you find one you have a rare item.

Gila Modelli (not the same as Gulp Modelli) has a website; Gilamodelli Sas
On this site you will find his range of model cars. The Scuderia Marzotto one is not available anymore, but he might still have one lying around somewhere. A very friendly and knowledgeable Italian specialised in trucks/buses
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 08:44 AM
dretceterini's Avatar
dretceterini dretceterini is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 5,297
Gila models do make a lot of interesting trucks, transporters and busses. I am negotiating with them to become the exclusive importer in the US. They are also considering making 2 or 3 more of the Scuderia Ferrari transporter as an exclusive for me!

Here is a link to the photo of the Alfa Romeo factory 1950s race transporter truck they make:

osCommerce


Here is a link to the Alfa Romeo bus and trolleybus they make:

osCommerce

Last edited by dretceterini; 11-15-2007 at 08:46 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 10:05 AM
tubut's Avatar
tubut tubut is offline
Senior Member
Platinum Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 2,521
Quote:
Originally Posted by BEAR View Post
Also trying to find what Alfa had in the 30s (when the Sc.Ferrari more or less were the "works"team) ,so far up to 1938 when they took over the Ferrari yellow vans , I found nothing ! Later Autodelta could follow here (or now!)

Lets have all with Alfa Romeo Corse/Spa/Autodelta in transporters............
Simon Moore's 8C 2300 book (published in 2000 and still available from Parkside Publications) conatins 5 pictures on 4 pages that show transporters. All of them are credited to and copyrighted by the "Spitzler & Zagari" collection, which the book describes as a "collection of photos recently purchased from Franco Zagari by Matt Spitzley."

Page 51 shows "2111001 nestled in the lower level of the Scuderia Ferrari transporter. A 6C1750 occupies the upper rack."

Page 383 shows a Ferrari service truck in the background of a 8C2300 Monza "being prepared for some additional testing after the Parma-Poggio Hillclimb in June 1933."

Page 583 shows the Scuderia Ferrari cars and a transporter lined up for the 1933 Mille Miglia.

Page 610 shows 2 pictures. The legend reads: "We end the chapter on the Scuderia Ferrari cars with these photos of the Scuderia's fleet of support vehicles. The photo above shows that Ferrari had a broad array of sponsors, but apparently divided loyalties between tyre manufacturers! The first truck in the line-up was used to support the team's motorcycle racing activities. Compare this photo with the one on page 583. The truck in the picture on the right [meaning th elower picture] was designed to carry two cars, one above the other (see page 51). The "I" beneath the Modenese license plate indicates the truck was used to go to international events. (c) Zagari & Spitzley."
Attached Images
    
__________________
Ruedi
'63 2600 Touring Spider (apart)
'65 2600 SZ (resto project)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off