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A Quick Burst
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Damn nice video... the sounds alone are great. I now have to drive my GTV to work tomorrow. Oh well, it could be worse...
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Daaaaaaamn.
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05-04-2008, 09:32 PM
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Damn nice video... the sounds alone are great. I now have to drive my GTV to work tomorrow. Oh well, it could be worse...
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Daaaaaaamn.
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I edited the first video, check it out.
Thanks guys it's getting more funner each time I go to the track, I learned how to spin a car (always wanted to do that after seeing JohnM doing it so much last year  )and how it feels to be in a 4 wheel drift.
In the short video the Spider was in a mild four wheel drift right when I just got past the apex and floored it. I had the shift light set at 6,500 rpm but my peak power is between 7,000 to 7,333............I think I must have been at or over 7,333 when I shifted to 3rd.
I'll have to check the data logger to see what my peak rpm for the day was.
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05-06-2008, 01:52 AM
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Hey Murray, did you ever consider a TS with ITB's? Do they have equal potential for power, with most specs being the same, or does the TS have an advantage?
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05-06-2008, 12:21 PM
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Murray, nice job! I can tell you are getting more comfortable pushing the car. Now if you want to further improve your lap times, just remember, those apex cones are there just for the first lap. Just put the inside front wheel up on the curb and brush them back a bit  .
See you in Chicago.
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05-06-2008, 08:18 PM
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Murray, nice job! I can tell you are getting more comfortable pushing the car. Now if you want to further improve your lap times, just remember, those apex cones are there just for the first lap. Just put the inside front wheel up on the curb and brush them back a bit .
See you in Chicago.
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I never got a chance to have an instructor ride with me that day but posting the video has brought out some good points, like my coasting, not using the full width of the track, waiting to long to get back on power ect ect.
But the good thing for me was feeling the tires sliding in a predicable manner that gave me the confendence to push it harder plus after the spin out I had I'm not afraid as I was before of loosing control by pushing it to hard.
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Hey Murray, did you ever consider a TS with ITB's? Do they have equal potential for power, with most specs being the same, or does the TS have an advantage?
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The next black Alfa maybe? But wait I think the next Alfa I own will remain stock? I'm not going to get into the more HP game again.
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I disagree, I think much more can be learned driving fast on street tires. The limits come up sooner, and you can dance on the limits more safely. If you do something really stupid on R-comps or race tires, your velocity is much higher = bigger crash.
V700 is a stickier tire than the a048 btw..
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05-07-2008, 09:58 AM
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Murray,
Sounds to me like a combination of technique and security issues. streetfame
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I disagree, I think much more can be learned driving fast on street tires. The limits come up sooner, and you can dance on the limits more safely. If you do something really stupid on R-comps or race tires, your velocity is much higher = bigger crash.
V700 is a stickier tire than the a048 btw..
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Tires....................... glad you brought this up, the tires I was running are several years old (Fall 2005) but only have 2 events on them (one last year and this last event.
I just bought a set of R6 Hoosier's for the TT (to give JohnM a wooping) but now I'm thinking of not using them because I may be faster running a tire I'm use to? If the tires still have good life to them I would hate to throw them out if there a couple more events left in them?
Whata you think about that?
Here a pic of the Kuhmo's front/rear and mounted..........
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Blowout? People usually shave track tires before using them for the best results.
I don't know that particular tire personally, but it looks fine to me. I'm sure grip isn't what it used to be, but it's much harder to learn car control on fresh race tires than on cheap street tires or those v700's on the way out.
Murray,
If you can master cheap tires (I'd start with a Falken Azenis Rt-615 or Kumho MX), and get the most performance out of them, think how fast you will be on expensive tires!!
Your videos are fantastic, I really lust after an engine like that sucker you built. I also notice though, that you're losing a lot of time because you're not carrying momentum through the turns. This is something that is best learnt on a SLOW, LOW GRIP CAR. Any race instructor will tell you that. So before you start thinking about buying $900 worth of new tires, work on carrying more speed through the turns first.
I hope I don't sound condescending or cocky...but I think you'll learn quicker on crappier tires is all. Save the big bucks for a racing school, or for later when you're really getting the most out of your tires.
Have fun, and keep the revs up!
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I hope I don't sound condescending or cocky...but I think you'll learn quicker on crappier tires is all. Save the big bucks for a racing school, or for later when you're really getting the most out of your tires.
Have fun, and keep the revs up!
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Couple other things before I get back to Statistics 
There is a spray on solution that makes tires sticky again. I haven't tried it before, but I'm going to try it on some free a048's I was given. I'll let you konw how it goes.
Second, ride in as many well driven cars as you can! Watch the driver's hand position, braking points, shifting points, lines, and steering inputs. If you get some significant time riding with people, I think it will help out quite a bit. I'm still using this method and I'm learning things all the time!
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Out of respect for your thread Murray, I have deleted my posts. I just thought I would share what I have seen and what does work for me. All the best.
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05-07-2008, 05:00 PM
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Hey Murray, do you have any front end geometry work (alfaholics kit)? Do you have a panhard or similar on the back?
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