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Old 03-06-2008, 10:19 AM
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Alfa Spider (duetto)

Hi, I want to show you an impression of our Spider of 1976. Its an 1600 Duetto wih an 2 litre engine. It's going to be our next restoration project.
The Giulia Gt 1300 Junior is amost ready!
You can visit our site: Alfa-Fratelli | Restauratie Alfa Giulia Bertone GT1300 Junior.
View and hear the sounds of my Alfa video's. (Giulia-Spider and GTam !)

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Old 03-06-2008, 10:38 AM
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that's a good looking Spider. Also, it had been a while since I visited your pages on the GT restoration.....it's coming along nicely!!!

Gefeliciteerd!!
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At Least in the US, a Series 2 (Kamn Tail) Spider is Not a Duetto!

Not sure about the naming in Europe, however, it is my understanding that the Duetto name only applies to the original 1600 round tail spiders. Even the 1969 1750 spiders in the US with Spica injection were 1750 Spiders, and not Duetto's. The Kamn tail spiders (series 2 in the US) were never referred to as Duettos.

Now that I'm done "bitching", you have a very nice Spider and I like the silver color. Is that original or a repaint in a non-Alfa color?
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:41 AM
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In Europe they're all called Duetto's....all the way through to Series 4, at least in Italy, IIRC
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Not sure about the naming in Europe, however, it is my understanding that the Duetto name only applies to the original 1600 round tail spiders. Even the 1969 1750 spiders in the US with Spica injection were 1750 Spiders, and not Duetto's. The Kamn tail spiders (series 2 in the US) were never referred to as Duettos.

Now that I'm done "bitching", you have a very nice Spider and I like the silver color. Is that original or a repaint in a non-Alfa color?
Hey Tom,

Actually when the first Series Spiders came out, they were called "1600 Spider", it was shortly after that they decided to get the public involved, eventually deciding on "Duetto". I guess that shortly after having the car called "Duetto", Alfa thought the name to be overly sweet and cute and could not wait to go back to calling the later version a "1750 Spider Veloce".

It's true that in many areas in Italy, they continue to call any type of convertible, "Duetto". Moreover, how silly that many British continue to call a GTV, a "BERTONE"!
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Hey Tom,

Actually when the first Series Spiders came out, they were called "1600 Spider", it was shortly after that they decided to get the public involved, eventually deciding on "Duetto". I guess that shortly after having the car called "Duetto", Alfa thought the name to be overly sweet and cute and could not wait to go back to calling the later version a "1750 Spider Veloce".

It's true that in many areas in Italy, they continue to call any type of convertible, "Duetto". Moreover, how silly that many British continue to call a GTV, a "BERTONE"!
I am aware that the name "Duetto" was never officially adopted by Alfa (due to a copyright infrigement issue with a biscuit manufacturer as I recall). But unofficially (at least in the US as I recall, but not sure about Europe), only the 1966 - 1967 1600 roundtail spiders are referred to as Duetto's. the 1969 roundtails with 1750 and Spica, (there were no 1668's imported into the US) are referred to as 1750 Spiders. The later Kamm tails are never referred to as Duetto's in the US. I know that this presents a problem in differeniating roundtail and kamm tail 1750's (Series 1 and Series 2) in the US.

I will now suit up in my Nomex (even if very old) to await the flames from 1750 roundtails that would like to consider 1969 roundtails with the 1750/Spica engines to be "Duetto's" with their greater "proviance." But regarding this thread, it's more importance in hearing from our European friends that may have better insights into this issue, although their understanding may be different than the US interpretation.
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Not sure about the naming in Europe, however, it is my understanding that the Duetto name only applies to the original 1600 round tail spiders. Even the 1969 1750 spiders in the US with Spica injection were 1750 Spiders, and not Duetto's. The Kamn tail spiders (series 2 in the US) were never referred to as Duettos.

Now that I'm done "bitching", you have a very nice Spider and I like the silver color. Is that original or a repaint in a non-Alfa color?
Folks, to end this discussion we've dicided to sell the kamm tail.
This week we bought a real Duetto 67!
Its an unfinished project but we'll bring this "lady" back to live!
This restoration goes way back (1985).
To keep you informed I'll make a new website.
An impression:
Gr Roger (de groeten)
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Our website : Alfa Fratelli Spider 1600 Duetto | Restauratie Alfa Spider 1600 Duetto, Restoring an Alfa Spider 1600 Duetto
Last updat: Yesterday we brought the car to the paintshop!
Within some weeks we can begin to build up the car.
CU on our site and maybe in the guestbook ?
(English text will follow soon)
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Now our problem... will it be the AR 304 or AR 514 , knowing that AR 514 goes back till 1969 and our Duetto is from 1966 !
Difficult if your reading other questions and answers about this colour.
But we have to make a desission soon!
Roger

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I am aware that the name "Duetto" was never officially adopted by Alfa (due to a copyright infrigement issue with a biscuit manufacturer as I recall). But unofficially (at least in the US as I recall, but not sure about Europe), only the 1966 - 1967 1600 roundtail spiders are referred to as Duetto's. the 1969 roundtails with 1750 and Spica, (there were no 1668's imported into the US) are referred to as 1750 Spiders. The later Kamm tails are never referred to as Duetto's in the US. I know that this presents a problem in differeniating roundtail and kamm tail 1750's (Series 1 and Series 2) in the US.

I will now suit up in my Nomex (even if very old) to await the flames from 1750 roundtails that would like to consider 1969 roundtails with the 1750/Spica engines to be "Duetto's" with their greater "proviance." But regarding this thread, it's more importance in hearing from our European friends that may have better insights into this issue, although their understanding may be different than the US interpretation.
Not at all is a 69 roundtail a "Duetto", but it is properly named a 1750 Spider Veloce as mentioned above. Link to related thread and 69 OE Owners manual cover PDF attached. There are several threads on this topic. It may need a sticky. I have no idea how the Veloce designaiton varied with Series 1-4 Spiders. Hey, call mine anything but an Alpha Romereo or Fiat. Regards, Bruce
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Difficult if your reading other questions and answers about this colour.
But we have to make a desission soon!
Roger
716 Graphite Grey of course!
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716 Graphite Grey of course!
A bit rare if you see this picture , don't you think?
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