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Old 12-31-2004, 08:57 PM
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Romeo and Romeo 2 vans

Some of these were built with passenger seats to be used as taxis and for other commercial purposes. Any one have any idea how many of that version were built?
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Old 01-20-2005, 12:48 PM
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I would also like some info on the alfa trucks. I saw a alfa tow truck that would make an awesome alfa transporter!
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:21 PM
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It seems that there was many variation on the Romeo and Romeo 2 vans, but none were built in large numbers. There is a tall roof passenger version for sale in Holland, but he is asking 60,000 Euros for it!
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Tony Stevens has some information about Romeos (although without production numbers) on his Alfastop web site at: http://www.alfastop.co.uk/english/romeo.html
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It seems that there was many variation on the Romeo and Romeo 2 vans, but none were built in large numbers. There is a tall roof passenger version for sale in Holland, but he is asking 60,000 Euros for it!
one of the reasons for this was that various independent coachbuilders created their own versions of the van (mostly advertising vans), such as Angelo Orlandi, Rolfo, Boneschi, Introzzi, Colli, etc.
The Romeo van was favored because of its very low load area due to FWD.
The Romeo was built from 1954 to 1957/58, the Romeo2 'til 1966 and there was a Romeo 3 that was only built for about 6 month (being named just Romeo). The Romeos were replaced by the A11/F11 and A12/F12s built until 1983.
Production #s for Romeo and Romeo2: 21,722 A11-F12: 12,778

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Old 01-21-2005, 08:34 AM
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I realize that the Romeo vans are rare; especially the passenger versions, but 60,000 Euros for one is absurd.
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Is that red towtruck a romeo van converted or is it a diffrent model entirely? I want one of those to move my alfas!!
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Is that red towtruck a romeo van converted or is it a diffrent model entirely? I want one of those to move my alfas!!
Hi,

these guys have what you are looking for.
It has been on their web site for a while.

http://www.alfavintage.it/automobili...arca=alfaromeo

I can help with shipping from Italy to the US via Germany.

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Is that red towtruck a romeo van converted or is it a diffrent model entirely? I want one of those to move my alfas!!
Built by different coach builders based on Alfa truck chassis.

Problem with those is a) underpowered and b) you can put in a 1600 (single carb - no space for double webers) but the joints are the weak part - one too quick clutch release and you're stranded.

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And here is another pic from 1972.
F12 van, road assistance vehicle of the Greek importer MOTOR HELLAS SA.
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Built by different coach builders based on Alfa truck chassis.

Problem with those is a) underpowered and b) you can put in a 1600 (single carb - no space for double webers) but the joints are the weak part - one too quick clutch release and you're stranded.

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The Romeo vans are neat, but they only had 35 horsepower, and were set up for a 50 MPH maximum speed. Stuff a bigger motor in them and you are going to snap a transaxle or something. I'd like to have one, but not for the kind of insane money some people are asking. To my mind a near perfect Romeo 1, 2 or 3 should be worth maybe $20,000.
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BTW, this A12 van is for sale at Monza, Italy for 1500 Euros (there is no engine though)
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Built by different coach builders based on Alfa truck chassis.

Problem with those is a) underpowered and b) you can put in a 1600 (single carb - no space for double webers) but the joints are the weak part - one too quick clutch release and you're stranded.

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Well, I remember very well that a racing tuner here in Belgium fitted a 1750 engine into a van. The dual Webers needed some panel beating near the passenger's legs. I don't know how long the transmission lasted...

OTOH, you guys are forgetting the, er, disastrous Diesel version. How about a compressed two-cylinders two-stroke 1160cc diesel engine? Arguably the worse engine ever fitted into an Alfa. Noisy, clumsy and even utterlu unreliable. I can't find back now where Alfa sourced the engine, but it was even worse than the later Perkins diesel.
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Mike-Harper Smith has one of the long wheelbase versions, without windows, here in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles. It is in nice shape, but he doesn't want to sell it.
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Alfa Romeo vans - Made in Spain

The Romeo van and its successor, the A12/F12 were also made in Spain.

In 1956 the FADISA company (Fabricacion de Automoviles Diesel S.A.) was founded in Madrid with the aim to start production of light vans and trucks under license of Alfa Romeo, at the time an important Italian manufacturer of commercial vehicles. A factory was built in Avila and the first vehicle left the assembly line in 1959. It was the Romeo van, called Romeo 2 in Spain. Petrol as well as Perkins Diesel engines were offered in a variety of coach-work options. In 1965, part of the production was moved to Colombia. Plans to produce American-Motors based luxury cars failed.

In 1967 FADISA was taken over by Motor Ibérica. Motor Ibérica also began in 1956, with license-built Ford Thames models. Just as the UK trucks took the name of a major English river, the Thames, so the Spanish-built Fords were called Ebro. The FADISA vans proved a welcome addition to the Ebro trucks program.

The successor to the Romeo van, the F12, was called Ebro F-100 in Spain. From 1971, slightly face-lifted, it was renamed the F-108.

Ebro continued the development of the van, with new modernised bodywork. In 1980 Motor Ibérica was taken over by the Nissan Motor Co.

The Ebro brand was discontinued, and the Ebro van was renamed Nissan Trade. It continued to be built in the Avila works until about 2002, when it was replaced by a Renault-based model. Take a look at the last incarnation of the Alfa Romeo F12 van, the Nissan Trade, and you'll notice that some F12 characteristics such as the boxy look and the typical wheels have been kept till the end.
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