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09-30-2007, 08:58 AM
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ala spessa 915096??
I just found this auction report from 1998:
http://www.motorbase.com/auctionlot/by-id/1367039239/
A car described as an ala spessa, chassis 915096, engine 923820, sold for £246500 by Brooks at Nurburgring.
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09-30-2007, 10:06 AM
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I have no idea where it is now.
According to Calligaras from the 6c2500 register, there were 19 Tipo 256 cars PLUS some pre-war Tipo SS cars. In the Anselmi book it combines the Tipo 256s with the pre-war Tipo SS and only 17 cars TOTAL are listed! The Ala Spessas are Tipo 256 cars.
The numbers for the Ala Spessas from Anselmi's book are: 915006/923802 and 915009/923805 (which had fuel injection in the 1940 race).
I believe that there was a 3rd Ala Spessa which is not listed in Anselmi. I have no idea what the chassis/motor number was.
Interestingly, the chassis number of the auction car and it's motor number are both pre-war, and are just slightly higher numbers than any of the T256s or pre-war SSs in Anselmi's list.
There are 3 Tipo 256s in Anselmi's list that have chassis numbers 915091, 092 and 093, with coachwork similar, but more "square" to that on the 8c2900B MM cars. It IS possible the auction car could be a real Ala Spessa, but I have no proof one way or the other...
Stu
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10-01-2007, 02:20 AM
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I have no idea where it is now.
According to Calligaras from the 6c2500 register, there were 19 Tipo 256 cars PLUS some pre-war Tipo SS cars. In the Anselmi book it combines the Tipo 256s with the pre-war Tipo SS and only 17 cars TOTAL are listed! The Ala Spessas are Tipo 256 cars.
The numbers for the Ala Spessas from Anselmi's book are: 915006/923802 and 915009/923805 (which had fuel injection in the 1940 race).
I believe that there was a 3rd Ala Spessa which is not listed in Anselmi. I have no idea what the chassis/motor number was.
Interestingly, the chassis number of the auction car and it's motor number are both pre-war, and are just slightly higher numbers than any of the T256s or pre-war SSs in Anselmi's list.
There are 3 Tipo 256s in Anselmi's list that have chassis numbers 915091, 092 and 093, with coachwork similar, but more "square" to that on the 8c2900B MM cars. It IS possible the auction car could be a real Ala Spessa, but I have no proof one way or the other...
Stu
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Strange that it has disappeared off the radar.
Any one else know anything?
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10-02-2007, 09:49 AM
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I found Anselmi's e-mail. It is: tito@edizionipificio.it |
10-02-2007, 10:10 AM
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10-02-2007, 10:13 AM
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Many thanks. Do you know if he speaks English?
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Yes he does.
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10-03-2007, 11:47 AM
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Alla Spessa?
It will take some time to dig up the source, but I have a note that 915096 used to be a closed car and that it was rebodied relatively recently (1990's?) for Ugo Isgro in Italy. It seems that Mr. Isgro has sponsored a number of similar projects. In any case, he sold it to another Italian who (apparently) sold it at the auction mentioned above.
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10-03-2007, 01:52 PM
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It will take some time to dig up the source, but I have a note that 915096 used to be a closed car and that it was rebodied relatively recently (1990's?) for Ugo Isgro in Italy. It seems that Mr. Isgro has sponsored a number of similar projects. In any case, he sold it to another Italian who (apparently) sold it at the auction mentioned above.
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10-03-2007, 04:33 PM
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Mail delivery failed. Can you double check the spelling? Thanks
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That is the spelling I have. Might no longer be valid, as this was from about 3 years ago.
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10-04-2007, 10:43 AM
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"di Mola", "da Mola" or "de Mola" (?) not 915096
Thanks "technobob" for a link to a very interesting compilation of photos. Unfortunately, there are many caption/label errors so I would consider the photos to be of informational value but not much of the text should be trusted. As a blatant example, there is a "Superleggera Pininfarina" shown nearby on the page.
The "da Mola" body was removed from a 6C1750 (fitted with Ford engine by that time) and placed on 6C2500 N. 915695 and, although looking very nice as presented, conveys little or no history about any of the component parts. Each time "Mola" is mentioned, it seems that a different take is on the prefix portion of the name. It would be nice to be certain which version is correct. Regardless, this is NOT the car (915096) under discussion.
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10-04-2007, 10:51 AM
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I know the car and hadn't realised it was the same one. It's owned by Irvine Laidlaw. Certainly not Ala Spessa.
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10-04-2007, 12:35 PM
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I see this car appearing in the "Related Models" area of Motorbase's site, but I do not see it appearing as any sort of direct link to the car sold at auction in 1998. I can certainly do some research that would confirm or deny, but this body is not on its original chassis in any case and, if it is now on "915096" then it has been moved yet again. Not impossible, but it seems unlikely based on what has been reported and what is known about the various cars' histories.
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I see this car appearing in the "Related Models" area of Motorbase's site, but I do not see it appearing as any sort of direct link to the car sold at auction in 1998. I can certainly do some research that would confirm or deny, but this body is not on its original chassis in any case and, if it is now on "915096" then it has been moved yet again. Not impossible, but it seems unlikely based on what has been reported and what is known about the various cars' histories.
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Perhaps by way of atonement, since I'm a "newbie", I'd like to point any AlfaBB viewers who aren't aware of this already to www.cromoclassico.com/eng/wallpaper.html , a collection of extremely high quality wallpapers (free, even!), including three fabulous 8C2900 wallpapers.
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10-04-2007, 05:31 PM
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The "da Mola" body was removed from a 6C1750 (fitted with Ford engine by that time) and placed on 6C2500 N. 915695 and, although looking very nice as presented, conveys little or no history about any of the component parts. Each time "Mola" is mentioned, it seems that a different take is on the prefix portion of the name. It would be nice to be certain which version is correct. Regardless, this is NOT the car (915096) under discussion.
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What I have is Carrosserie Umberto De Mola of Brussels, Belgium
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