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Quattroruote?
Seems I recall and ALFA replica, built on a modern chassis but it had the appearance of a 6C-2300 or something of that vintage.
I have a 1/43 model of it at home, and if I remember correctly, it says "Quattroruote" underneath. Possibly constructed for the magazine?
What's the story on this car? Many built? Any in the USA?
Bob Z.
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02-17-2006, 07:00 PM
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It's basically a stylized replica made by Alfa on a 105 platform of the 6c1750..
Off the top of my head, the number made was 96
The magazine was indirectly involved with getting the car produced.
I think there are about 5 in the US; maybe more..
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02-17-2006, 08:35 PM
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There is a thread about this type of car here.
BTW: The search feature of AlfaBB is quite useful for this type of question.
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02-17-2006, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dretceterini
It's basically a stylized replica made by Alfa on a 105 platform of the 6c1750..
Off the top of my head, the number made was 96
The magazine was indirectly involved with getting the car produced.
I think there are about 5 in the US; maybe more..
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The cars seemed* more Zagato than Alfa Romeo--it was well made and all Alfa parts but it didn't seem like an OEM project. Still, they drove surprisingly well. The car was made from cut-down 101 Giulia chassis [suspension and structure] which made it fairly stiff, so it rode and handled pretty well, and it wasn't heavy. I remember talking with Bill Knauz, who described badgering Alfa USA to bring some of the cars to the United States... and he remembered selling as many as he could get.
I've got some chassis detail photos somewhere...
--Carter
* I don't know the development history.
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02-17-2006, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CarterHendricks
[i]It's basically a stylized replica of the 6c1750 made by Alfa on a 101 platform ...
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My bad. Carter is right, it is on a 101...
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02-17-2006, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tubut
Sorry, Carter: Stu is correct. The Gransport Quattroruote-Zagato is based on the 105 series Giulia 1600 (speak Duetto), as indicated in one of the documents of the link posted above. |
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02-17-2006, 10:03 PM
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Sorry, Carter: I don't have a parts catalog to check, but I believe Stu is correct.
Every piece of literature I have indicates the Gransport Quattroruote-Zagato (aka "4R") was intoduced in 1965 as a collaboration of Quattroruote magazine and Zagato to revive the interest in classic cars by building a car with modern technology and classic looks. 92 cars were built from 1966-'68.
The literature (Fusi, d'Amico & Tabucchi, Quattroruote, and Zagato advertising in one of the documents in the link posted above) are consistent in pointing out that the car was built based on the Giulia 1600 (I always presumed this meant Giulia 1600 Spider), which would be a 105 series car.
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02-17-2006, 10:08 PM
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Carter: You answer was quicker than I could correct my post. Sorry if I created confusion. I could only go by sales literature and trust your experience more than sales talk.
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Originally Posted by CarterHendricks
Check the old thread: another Alfa enthusiast and specialist mechanic, Al Promisco, described his car and others and even gave the 101 series number.
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Originally Posted by tubut
... the car was built based on the Giulia 1600 (I always presumed this meant Giulia 1600 Spider), which would be a 105 series car.
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I checked Fusi again and saw that he lists both the "Giulia 1600 Spider" and the "4R" as 101.23 cars.
Thanks to Fusi, I also found out what confused me so badly: The title of the parts catalog I have says "1600 Spider" which I assumed to be a "Giulia 1600 Spider" when in fact it is for a 105.03 "Giulia Spider Duetto".
Porca miseria, I should stick to my knitting and only comment on 106 cars...
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02-18-2006, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tubut
I checked Fusi again and saw that he lists both the "Giulia 1600 Spider" and the "4R" as 101.23 cars.
Thanks to Fusi, I also found out what confused me so badly: The title of the parts catalog I have says "1600 Spider" which I assumed to be a "Giulia 1600 Spider" when in fact it is for a 105.03 "Giulia Spider Duetto".
Porca miseria, I should stick to my knitting and only comment on 106 cars...
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 No one can remember everything about Alfas. I was certain they were 105 based too....
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A while back I did a lot of investigation on these cars, with a view to purchasing one.
The ONLY thing I can guarantee is that in true Alfa fashion, nothing written in any archives is proof of what rolled out the 'factory' door.
I have it on very good authority(ies) that there are cars on both 101 and 105 floorpans. Both suitably modified.
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Originally Posted by beatle_bayly
I have it on very good authority(ies) that there are cars on both 101 and 105 floorpans. Both suitably modified.
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[I don't think Alfa is the primary source of misinformation about our cars].
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02-18-2006, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Zambelli
Seems I recall and ALFA replica, built on a modern chassis but it had the appearance of a 6C-2300 or something of that vintage.
I have a 1/43 model of it at home, and if I remember correctly, it says "Quattroruote" underneath. Possibly constructed for the magazine?
What's the story on this car? Many built? Any in the USA?
Bob Z.
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