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AlfaRonny · #1 (**permalink**) 11-29-2005, 12:08 PM

Took this picture today at the Essen Motor Show.
It's taken from another picture hanging on the wall.
I have no further information.
Anyone has an idea?

**78-AR-SPIDER** · #2 (**permalink**) 11-29-2005, 07:56 PM

It is the Pescara version of the 6c-2300 built in 1934.
or at least I think so

dretceterini · #3 (**permalink**) 11-29-2005, 08:51 PM

Mille Miglia 1934. 6c1750 coupe driven by Crivellari and Bortolon. 26th place O/A

2000 touring sp · #4 (**permalink**) 11-30-2005, 02:46 PM

Sorry Dr but isn't a Pescara

**78-AR-SPIDER** · #5 (**permalink**) 11-30-2005, 09:33 PM

On Page 70 of Alfa Romeo in Pictures by Ron Bacon there Is a car with the same fenders, bumper, wipers, grill, and roof line and the roof looks to be of the same materiel. The caption says 1934 Pescara version of the 6c-2300 a one off saloon.

I don’t have a flat bed scanner so I can not show you what I see.
Any one with the book and a scanner?
Or the book could be wrong Which would make me wrong.

gtv2000 · #6 (**permalink**) 12-01-2005, 04:27 AM

Basically, a 6C2300A is a rebored 6C1750.

The family goes from the 1927 6C1500 up to the 6C2300A through successive engine enlargements, including the interim version of the 1933 6C1900.

The big step is from 6C2300A to 6C2300B, when a completely different chassis, with independent suspensions, replaces the live axles of the previous models.

I guess, because I didn't bother to check myself, that Stu gave the identification data from Mille Miglia reports and results, based on the fact the background indicates the venue as the MM.

From outside, no one could tell a rebodied or late 6C1750 from a 6C2300A. I confess that at first sight, I would have gone for a 2300A, my guess based on the 1934-style body.

But if the MM records show the car #37 as a 1750, well, it's because the registration documents shoud have said so.

dretceterini · #7 (**permalink**) 12-01-2005, 10:02 AM

My information is based on Mille Miglia records, where the car is listed as a 6c1750. As GTV2000 said, the 6c1500s up through the 6c2300As are basically the same car, with an enlarged motor and other minor modifications and updates. I honestly don't know if this car is a 1500, 1750, 1900 or 2300....but as the 2300s didn't come out until 1934, and the MM records I have say it is a 1750...

DaveH · #8 (**permalink**) 12-01-2005, 10:52 AM

Use your digital camera. Stand back a bit and zoom a little to get rid of fisheye effect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78-AR-SPIDER

I don’t have a flat bed scanner so I can not show you what I see.
Any one with the book and a scanner?

**78-AR-SPIDER** · #9 (**permalink**) 12-01-2005, 10:29 PM

Thanks Dave I will take a photo and post it when I get home in 2 weeks.

**78-AR-SPIDER** · #10 (**permalink**) 12-16-2005, 09:42 PM

Ok I am home now and will post the photo of the book (thanks Dave for the idea) as you can see the car looks to have the same fenders, bumper, wipers, grill, and roof line and the roof looks to be of the same materiel.
But I am not an Authority on classic Alfa Romeos just happened to recognized a picture form a book.

gt601 · #11 (**permalink**) 12-17-2005, 05:19 AM

Looking at the two pictures I doubt its the same model car. the grill and hood are different.

dretceterini · #12 (**permalink**) 12-17-2005, 09:46 AM

They aren't the same car. The 1st car is a 6c1750 and the 2nd is a 6c2300 (NOT 6c2300B) Pescara.

iicarJohn · #13 (**permalink**) 01-24-2009, 08:10 PM

If those who posted photos originally to give context to this old thread would do so again, I will have a go at making some educated guesses ... if I cannot do somewhat more than guess.

John

AlfaRonny · #14 (**permalink**) 01-25-2009, 02:40 AM

John, this is the picture I took at the Essen Motor Show

iicarJohn · #15 (**permalink**) 01-25-2009, 03:15 AM

Thanks!

My first impression is that it is perhaps 6C1900 or very early 6C2300 but it will take some time to dig deeper. It seems as if it may be wearing a Novara plate but the edges of the four digits that barely appear are not distinctive enough to make for easy guesses as to the number or even a part of it. But, Novara plates had four digits from the 1920's throughout most of the 1930's.

I will have a look at Bacon's book when I next get to visit my library. If it looks intriguingly close, I will bring it to my scanner and share ... if it seems appropriate.

It should be mentioned that the 2300cc motore was not merely an enlarged 1500/1750/1900. It was a whole new entity. But it is also true that the chassis/suspension changes between the 6C2300 and 6C2300B were more distinctive than the chassis/suspension changes from 6C1750/1900 to 6C2300.

More to follow.

John