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11-29-2005, 12:30 PM
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Carini-Sanesi at Le Mans 1953 with #00123.
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11-29-2005, 02:23 PM
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This I think is a nice sequence.
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11-29-2005, 02:33 PM
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More superb photos, especially the photo of the rear of the car. Thanks !
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11-30-2005, 06:08 AM
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Boudewijn, you keep on amazing us with previously unseen pictures - to me at least. Thank you very much.
If the information is not in the "classified" league, could you quote the source of this series, as we can have an idea which kind of books/magazines we miss?
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11-30-2005, 08:02 AM
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First of all I want to express my happiness about giving our subject the correct headline and an own place 
Carter, about the changes of the Zagato Spider....
The colour photo (by Bolle Boesen btw), shows that it was red when it raced in Sweden.
Next season JoBo raced the car in England. There it appeared with the stripe on the hood. Hard to say anything about a change of colours due to the b/w photos.
Btw, interesting to see JoBo's Ferrari Monza behind the Alfa in the same paint.
The photos of this Spider at the race in Caracas, Venezuela show that the colours were changed to blue/yellow. Further the hood and the grille were changed. In this state the car went into the hands of Mr. Wessels.
Now the question comes up, why the front was changed 
Due to an accident?
Or Bonnier tried to find a more efficient cooling for the breaks?
Best regards
Ciao Carlo 
P.S. Please allow me an additional general remark about the members of the AlfaBB..... In the past year a lot of serious, sympathic and sophisticated personalities joined our board. I want to express my joy that the AlfaBB is getting better and better - that's not the case with all boards 
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11-30-2005, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by carlo
First of all I want to express my happiness about giving our subject the correct headline and an own place
The photos of this Spider at the race in Caracas, Venezuela show that the colours were changed to blue/yellow. Further the hood and the grille were changed. In this state the car went into the hands of Mr. Wessels.
Now the question comes up, why the front was changed
Due to an accident?
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Henry told me that he was told that the first modifications to the nose were in response to a cooling problem, but I think that it was an engine cooling problem. This doesn't make sense, but the front brakes are literally doubled [4 shoe!] 1900TI brakes, and with even more complex multiple level air ducts to pick up cooling from the bottom of each front wheel. The problems related to brakes were in the rear, caused by the build up of heat.
What I want to try to find out is how the nose continued to change after it left Henry's keeping. And I hope that we can finally learn more about the car's history from Colli to Zagato.
I agree with your information and the idea that the car was painted in Swedish colors as it entered international competitions.
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11-30-2005, 09:52 AM
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Next season JoBo raced the car in England. There it appeared with the stripe on the hood. Hard to say anything about a change of colours due to the b/w photos.
Btw, interesting to see JoBo's Ferrari Monza behind the Alfa in the same paint. |
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11-30-2005, 10:24 AM
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The colour photo (by Bolle Boesen btw), shows that it was red when it raced in Sweden, and is dated 1956 and not 19559See lower right corner of the photo)! The car still has the small pointed front turn signals (taped over). Other photos from 1956 show the signals removed and holes in the bodyworkwork, which I would assume had tubing behind them attached to the brakes for cooling. The turn signals are moved to the corners of the grille area. I'm not sure if the date of 1956 for that photo is correct; I think it actually might be 1955. I believe the car was actually raced in England in 1955, still in red.
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11-30-2005, 01:21 PM
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On August 26 1956 Bonnier entered the 5 hrs race at Messina with #00125. He did not finish because of an accident. I think this may have been the moment when the nose was redesigned and the car got the Caracas outfit. BTW he finished 5th in Caracas on November 4 1956.
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I think it actually might be 1955. I believe the car was actually raced in England in 1955, still in red.
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The first Swedish racing season after WWII started 1955, a good occasion for Bonnier, who just formed a sort of Scuderia, to collect experiences.
In 1956 the Bonnier team took part in several races in England and at exotic occasions like Carracas and Messina.
Please allow me a little remark on Bo(lle) Boesen.
He was a photographer from Stockholm. And he was a racing-nut. His close relation to JoBo brought not only a lot of unique and very personal photographs, he also raced together with JoBo.
At the MM 1956 Bonnier and navigator Boesen finished 15th in an Alfa Romeo Giulietta SV.
Tony Adriaensens now holds the copyrights of the Boesen photographs.
Some very nice photographs of Boesen can be found in the book "Racing in Sweden".
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On August 26 1956 Bonnier entered the 5 hrs race at Messina with #00125. He did not finish because of an accident. I think this may have been the moment when the nose was redesigned and the car got the Caracas outfit. BTW he finished 5th in Caracas on November 4 1956
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Boudewijn, I agree that this crash could have been the reason for the changes! Nevertheless, the new hood was improved to the aspects Carter mentioned earlier.
And thanks for sharing the photos of Sanesi's car before the start of the MM.
Great!!!
Ronny, amongst the photos you posted is the 1900 Colli Spider.
We discussed the car some time ago: Charles Rezzaghi, San Francisco
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What I want to try to find out is how the nose continued to change after it left Henry's keeping. And I hope that we can finally learn more about the car's history from Colli to Zagato.
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Same over here
Please keep us updated.
Ciao Carlo
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12-04-2005, 01:10 PM
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I thought this to be a nice view on the 6C 3000's starting at Le Mans 1953.
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12-05-2005, 10:47 AM
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As I understand it (from Joakim Bonnier's book "Fort- Fortare! Fortast?), the car was rebodied after Bonnier crashed it on his first race - Djurgårdsloppet in Helsinki, Finland 8th may 1955. The first race with the Zagato body,driven by John Kvarnström, was Sveriges Grand Prix on the Råbelöf track, near Kristianstad , Sweden 7th August 1955.
I think It was a thread on "The Nostalgia Forum" about this some time ago...
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12-06-2005, 11:09 AM
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As I understand it (from Joakim Bonnier's book "Fort- Fortare! Fortast?), the car was rebodied after Bonnier crashed it on his first race - Djurgårdsloppet in Helsinki, Finland 8th may 1955. The first race with the Zagato body,driven by John Kvarnström, was Sveriges Grand Prix on the Råbelöf track, near Kristianstad , Sweden 7th August 1955.
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12-06-2005, 01:40 PM
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Well, he didn't race at Helsinki, since he crasched in practice. It was the first time he drove the car. The ex-Kling Mille Miglia-car came directly from Italy.
Bonnier sent it to Zagato, where he already had ordered three 1900SSZ. He didn't like the coupé body, so he ordered a spider instead.
The Zagato cars all debuted at Kristianstad. Bonnier concentraded on the GT race. A smart move since he won, beating the de Priolo brothers and made himself known outside of Sweden. John Kvarnström drove the 6C3000 in the main race against Fangio and Moss in their Le Mans Mercedes cars. Kvarnström didn't like the car. Too twitchy, he said. And the brakes gave up after a while.
Bonnier's first race with the red car was at Karlskoga a week later, where he was third behind Carlsson and Musy. Then he went over to England and Oulton Park, where he retired with a leaking fuel tank.
A weer later he won with the spider for the forst time, after a long battle with Carlsson's Monza, at the Skarpnäck airfield outside of Stockholm.
In early 1956 Bonnier raced the "Disco" (as it was called in Sweden) in the Swedish ice-races. With spiked wheels! He retired at Ludvika, was second at Västerås (behind Carlsson), retired at Hindås and won at Flaten (outside of Stockholm). On a second race at Ludvika, Bonnier's mechanic KG Kanrell drove the car.
After the winter season Bonnier started his "Scuderia Bonnier" and tried a new career as a professional racing driver. He got a Maserati 150S and both cars were painted in black and gold. (The transporter was black and yellow). You can see the Maserati behind the Alfa in the picture from Great Britain.
At the first meeting at Oulton Park the Alfa was rented to Ken Wharton who was tenth. Bonnier raced the car at Aintree, Silverstone and Montlhery without any success.
I don't know when the car was repainted. But in the Supercortemaggiore in June the Maserati was still black and gold and a month later the Alfa was blue and yellow at Bari (the Maserati was also blue and yellow the week after that). At Bari the car had a different nose grill.
Bonnier then drove at Messina together with Piper ( according to Piper, they finished!? But I haven't found any results.) The brakes played up there and Bonnier smashed the nose against the hay-bales.
So when the car went to South America it had a new nose.
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12-06-2005, 01:46 PM
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Here is a lousy photo-copy of a photo-copy from a Finnish newspaper after the crash in Helsinki.
Bonnier at the Bari GP 1956. Note the different nose and colour. He retired here.
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