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Old 11-19-2005, 07:31 PM
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Boudewijn, you amaze me with your documents!

Bonnier's car at Zagato shop is really a surprise to me.

This means that when H. Wessels visited then the Zagato shop, he might have seen the (remains of) the Colli body lying around. Any way to check if there are traces of such a testimony?
I mentioned this photo sometime back in this thread--and the photo was published in KB some long time ago. I've talked with Henry about his visit to Zagato, and he never mentioned seeing the remains of the Colli body. I will ask...

--Carter
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:52 AM
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I mentioned this photo sometime back in this thread--and the photo was published in KB some long time ago. I've talked with Henry about his visit to Zagato, and he never mentioned seeing the remains of the Colli body. I will ask...

--Carter
I badly need to complete my KB collection...
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Old 11-20-2005, 05:44 PM
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No, not about your car....I don't even know it's chassis number, nor have I done any reseach to see if it was restored to "as built" or not. If I was a judge at Pebble Beach, I would ask the owner to provide photos of the car as built and than compare them with the car as presented. If he could not or would not do this, I would deduct points. In MY opinion, a car should be restored as close as humanly possible to the way it left the factory, and the owner should be willing to provide the documentation.

Many people who "restore" cars are simply to lazy to spend the time and do the research on THEIR particular car, so they "adapt" what looks to be the generic style based on the majority of pictures they can easily find. As you are aware, these cars are basically a series of "one-offs", and no two are absolutely identical. There are a few people who do bother to make sure that things are correct, but far from everyone.

In the case of Armin's ex-Scuderia Ambrosiana giulietta sprint lightweight veloce, there were some things he did as HE prefered, in spite of all the research I did, such as adding the Borrani wire wheels...
Stu, Thanks for the reply. I was mostly joking around, but was curious if you had specific observations. I'd go further here, however I don't want to sidetrack this thread. I'll start another on the topic of restored to original. Best regards, George
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:43 AM
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Maybe more info can be found through the pictures of Louis Klemantaski, with here a list of his 1953 picture collection.

1953
Monte Carlo Rally (1/53) 270 13 53C2, C53C2,
C52M5
Goodwood (3/53) 187 - 53R1, 53ASJ-E
Mille Miglia (4/53) 540 - 53C3
Goodwood (4/53) 167 - 53R2,53ASJ-I,IB
International Trophy, Silverstone (5/53) 504 12 53R3, 53ASJ-G,M;
C53MJ1
Ulster Trophy, Dundrod (5/53) 312 - 53R4
Crystal Palace (5/53) 214 - 53R5, 53ASJ-K,M
Snetterton (5/53) 132 - 53R6
Le Mans 24 Hours (6/53) 680 13 53C4, C54M3
British Empire Trophy, Isle of Man (6/53) 264 - 53R7
Spa-Francorchamps (m/c) (7/53) 102 - 53C1
Reims 12 Hours & French Grand Prix, 330 - 53C5
Reims (7/53)
Belgian Grand Prix (m/c), Spa (7/53) 108 - 53C1
Crystal Palace (7/53) 20 - 53ASJ-D,M
British Grand Prix, Silverstone (7/53) 357 4 53R8, 53ASJ-B,M;
C53MJ2
Coronation Rally, RR Ghost Club (7/53) 101 - 53R9
German Grand Prix, Nurburgring (8/53) - 34 C54M4
Swiss Grand Prix, Bern (8/53) 112 - 53C6
Spanish M.C. 36 - MC21
Goodwood (8/53) 6 - 53ASJ-C
Goodwood 9 Hours (8/53) 509 - 53R10, 53ASJ-J,M
Monza M/cycle GP 70 - 53M1
Italian Grand Prix, Monza 34 21 53M2, C53M2
Tourist Trophy, Dundrod (9/53) 264 - 53R11
Goodwood (9/53) 242 - 53R12, 53ASJ-A,M
Crystal Palace (9/53) 28 - 53ASJ-H,M
Spanish Grand Prix, Barcelona (m/c) (10/53)
1954
The numbers behind the races are the number of pictures he took of that particular event.

I found this list on:
http://www.klemantaski.com/page1.asp
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:00 AM
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Maybe more info can be found through the pictures of Louis Klemantaski, with here a list of his 1953 picture collection.
Next step is to inquire for price.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:47 AM
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I believe the collection is owned by Peter Sachs, and the fees are fairly steep
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:46 AM
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Here's a picture from Fangio in the '53 Mille Miglia.
It's not Klemantaski, but comes from the Alfa Romeo archives.
Scanned it from a book
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Old 11-25-2005, 12:54 PM
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Interesting pic of 00126 at Henry Wessels residence also showing his Tipo B and 33 Stradale.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:26 AM
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The Phil Hill 6C 3000 CM nowadays
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:33 AM
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Wich one is this ?

It's one of the Spiders, no ?
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:40 AM
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Here are some 1953 pictures.
After a few weeks of rebuilding the place, I finally got back to installing the PC, not using the laptop anymore.

# 22 Le Mans '53
#?02 Mille Miglia '53 Fangio
# 46 Supercortemaggiore '53 Fangio
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:44 AM
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and two more.

First one is Fangio, probably at Supercortemaggiore (#46)

Second one is Sanesi
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:06 AM
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Here you'll find some large pictures of the (ex-Fangio) Phil Hill Car at the Le Mans Classic '04. Some info too, but nothing new...

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...hp&carnum=2162

Also some pictures of the Spider on different locations.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:09 AM
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:18 AM
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