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Old 10-22-2005, 12:05 PM
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sorry, you are correct. Thanks
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Old 10-22-2005, 07:14 PM
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I found the information on the red and black 6c2500SS that looks a lot like Simon Moore's 8c2900 and the two photos (red and black) and (yellow and black) of SUPPOSELY De Mola cars.

The car I'm talking about won best in show at Concorso Italiano in 1998: 1939 Alfa Romeo 6C2500 Super Sport, Larry Frye, Atherton, California

Here is a link to the only photo I can find of the car

http://www.paconcours.com/Archive/20...002ClassA1.jpg

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Old 10-23-2005, 01:39 AM
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Thank you, the surroundings seems similar to the first picture of the black/read taken at a Concorso.
But what is it. In the 6C2500 book there is no picture of similar car.
If we take this Larry Frye car , it must certainly be a sort of rebuild, and the story could fit this one as easily as it fits the black one, the Paul Hatmont car.
It is strange with the De Mola Brothers. we have these 2 cars that is referred to De Mola, with a production gab at around 10 years, it cant be the only thing that they did produce over 10 years.
And with the design of the Paul Hatmont car, supposedly the end of the 40, it is a very sophisticated design compared with what the Italian could come up with in that period.
Despite that there is a sort of quality in both cars. Nobody seems to know anything about these brothers, not even in Belgium.
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Old 10-23-2005, 04:39 AM
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I remember a bunch of discussion a few years ago about a car (don't know what chassis offhand) that looked a lot like Simon's 8c2900 A, but had a 6c2500SS 3-carb motor. I can't find my old issues of the 6c2500 register at the moment, but that is where a lot of the discussion took place. Maybe Jay Nuxoll or Mal Harris remembers the full story...but it has NOTHING to do with the De Mola car...
Yes, you're right. Now I see which car it is, but in the article I have it featured, it was black/yellow about 10 years ago. Strange I didn't think immediately to that one. I'll check, but I'm afraid there's no chassis number given.

I'm afraid I've been misuderstood about the Zagato replica. I meant that the 6C1750 chassis, instead of being used to power the Di Mola car, had its own life with a replica Zagato body, i.e. the typical 6C1750 Gran Sport type. Again not related to the red/black Touring 6C2500.

As for De Mola (please keep the name correctly spelled). This should be the only Alfa they happened to cloth. No surprise, Alfa chassis were not common in Belgium late 30s early 40s! And their owner, for the cost of such car, more probably has them bodied/rebodied by well known signatures. De Mola's Alfa design is dated 1940-41, which is even more astonishing than if it were post-war.
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Old 10-23-2005, 05:01 AM
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Here it is in Black Yellow version. To me it is strange that it is connected to De Mola. usually the is no smoke without a fire.
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Old 10-23-2005, 05:50 AM
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Found the other article with pictures of the car in original, 1941 conditions with pop-up headlamps. Can’t scan now, and picture is poor. I’ll see what I can do in the next days.
Extra info is that De Mola has his shop in Rue Jacques de Lalaing, 6, in Brussels. The original owner who commissioned the coachwork was a Mr. Joseph Nothomb from Brussels. Date of “order” might be 1939 instead of under occupation, but the car, entirely hand-beaten wasn’t ready before fall 1941. Tunisian episode also confirmed after Ostende prize winning 1948. Car won prize at Peeble Beach 1972 – someone to check this track? –

Umberto De Mola provided the early history of the car to the following owners, as a plate with his name and address on the car allowed them to contact him. He saw his creation first time from 1948 when invited at Beaulieu, where the car was on loan, in 1983. Umberto De Mola died next year, but his wife and daughter conserved the archives. He also bodied a Lancia of which I know nothing.

As for the Touring 6C2500 Spider, nothing to do with De Mola. I post the whereabouts of that car in the new thread opened by Dr. in the proper section, so we keep good order in the topics/thread titles
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:13 AM
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I have no idea what the yellow and black car actually is, as the 6c2500SS (Tipo 256) with 8c2900A style coachwork, owned by Larry Frye, was red and black when I saw it and it won best in show at Concorso Italiano in 1998. It appears to have been still red and black at the Paolo Alto (California) concours in 2002 (photo link above)

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De Mola's relative

I am the grandson of Umberto De Mola, son of his only daugther Myriam De Mola. I have many pictures of my grandfather's cars, and I still own a car he built which is in a museum in Belgium.
I would like to know more about his achievements and I have unique archives, papers, pictures etc that I can scan...

Fabze@hotmail.com
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