Selling the 164B I just bought in December
Tried to decide if I should start a new post or continue this one...there were a lot of folks that commented, so opted for here.....
Unfortunately, I need to put up for sale my 164B that I just bought in December. While having my Montreal engine looked over by Richard Jemison, he found cracks on the plug thread side of the combustion chamber for each cylinder. Apparently, this is a common problem with Montreal engines…..just one that I had not budgeted for in the rebuild. The proceeds from the sale of the 164 will help pay those additional costs.
Since I bought the 164 in mid-December from Steve’s friend, Gene, who was the original owner, I have done the following work:
1. Replaced timing belt and tensioner
2. Replaced both cam seals (one was leaking oil badly)
3. Plugs, plug wires, cap/rotor
4. Flushed all fluids and replaced (oil, transmission, coolant)
5. Replaced main serpentine belt (and newer tensioner from a parts car....more on this later), alternator belt and power steering belt
6. Installed new coolant temperature sensor and installed manual switch as backup in case the low speed fan resistor fails. It is working fine, just liked the backup. Electric fan comes on when it is supposed to...car runs at right temperature
1. Had resonator pulled as it had rusted through and a new straight pipe section welded in…great sound
2. Cleaned and adjusted brakes...pads were recently changed when I bought it
3. Rotated tires....still good tread left on all four
1. Car was supposedly converted to R-134a...when compressor failed I saw it was not...
2. Put in a good R134a compressor from my parts car
3. Installed new filter/drier
4. Installed R-134a suction/discharge hoses
5. Installed new cross flow condenser
6. The car is quite cool....better than when it was from the factory
1. All switches, buttons work....electric release for fuel door and trunk, central locking, sunroof, etc.
2. Had to sew up two seams on the seats...no tears, just seam thread came undone. Seats are fine, a little fading on the rear headrests.
3. Carpet is somewhat faded and a stain in the rear center hump
4. All power windows work, both power mirrors work
The overall good:
1. Starts easily
2. Idles smoothly
3. Accelerates very well, engine runs well to redline, averaging 18 mpg city with spirited driving
4. AC is cool
5. Brakes are solid (this is a base model and does not have ABS, it does have an airbag)
6. No leaks
The overall not-so-good:
1. The roof and right side B/C pillar paint is oxidized and faded. The car sat for the last year and the right side bore the brunt of the southern exposure. I have tried a lot of things to remove the oxidation....it needs a re-spray.
2. There is a bit of crazing on the hood as well. That small part needs a re-spray. Rest of paint is nice….had an estimate of $1800 to get this work and the roofline work fixed and painted
3. Some mechanic, before me, changed the main serpentine belt tensioner. That mechanic used the wrong thread bolts to hold on the tensioner (he used more coarse bolts than he should have)....all that to say, I had to rethread the holes in the block and do some heavy duty anchoring with washers to get the tensioner to hold. It looks wrong, yet is absolutely correct in how it holds tension on the serpentine belt. No slipping. The work I had to do is a good argument for not having a non-Alfa mechanic work on your car
While I have a lot more dollars and time in it, I am only asking $2,000 considering driving car back to new owner, paint and that 164s don't get the resale they should.
I have attached a lot of pictures, showing the good and bad. Just washed and waxed it….it shines well.
If you are interested in this wonderful 164, please send me a PM.
John (JP) Perry
1972 Montreal - in process!
1991 164B - sold 8/2013
1989 Milano Verde - sold 11/2012
1986 Spider Quad - sold 1/2012
1991 164L - sold 11/2011 and regret selling it