09-16-2009, 06:26 AM
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Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato (USA version only) or Aurelia B24
Hi I am looking for this cars if anyone has anything or knows anything about any Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato (USA version only) or Aurelia B24, my email is vinobelina@yahoo.com |
09-16-2009, 09:05 AM
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Fantasy Junction in Emeryville CA has had this Fulvia Zagato for months/years.
1971 Lancia Fulvia Zagato 1.3S
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09-16-2009, 09:13 AM
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The ad mentions an engine rebuild and other work by Jaan Hjorth here in Berkeley. You're not going to find a better Lancia mechanic (or anything else for that matter) on earth. His site is at www.eddinsmoto.com.
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09-16-2009, 09:29 AM
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09-16-2009, 11:00 AM
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09-19-2009, 08:30 AM
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The one in Illinois looks really nice, but I agree with Andrew. Call Jaan, find out what else the FJ car needs, have Jaan perform the work, and you will have one of the nicest cars in the world, bar none. He fixes things that no one else in the world can, and when he is done, everything is better than new.
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09-19-2009, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by vino058
Hi I am looking for this cars if anyone has anything or knows anything about any Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato (USA version only) or Aurelia B24, my email is vinobelina@yahoo.com |
But sticking to the Fulvia Sport, it's safe to say that they don't come up for sale very often in the US; the two cars that others have mentioned are the only ones I know of at the moment. And each of them has issues. Among other things, neither of these cars has its original bumpers. To those who say that the Sport looks much better without them, I'd say I completely agree, but I'd also say that anyone who pays top dollar for a car ought to get it complete; Sport bumpers are very hard to find, in case anyone wants to restore the car to original condition at some point.
The Burt Collection car is a Fulvia Sport 1600, which is a rare car (I know of only two others in the US, of the only 800 built); even so, it's overpriced. There's a lengthy discussion of this car in the BringaTrailer archives: BaT - The best vintage cars for sale online » BaT Exclusive: 1971 Lancia Fulvia Zagato
The current seller bought it for $25k, did nothing to it, and a month later was advertising it for $40k. It sat for years with the original dealer at $25k, and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere for $40k now. $25k was a good price for the car--even a little less than what it would cost to import one from Europe--but $40k is just silly.
The Fantasy Junction car has been sitting with them over a couple of years and a couple of (minor) price reductions. The 1.6 engine is a useful, if non-original addition, and is probably in good shape if Jaan Hjorth rebuilt it. The car needs cosmetic work to justify more than a 'driver' price, so the current price is still a little high, but it's probably within negotiating range. Think of this one as a driver only--not anything you could show at a serious event--but there's nothing wrong with that, at the right price. Just don't buy it thinking you're going to take it to Jaan for a full restoration; at this price, you'll be upside down in a heartbeat.
As far as an Aurelia is concerned. if you mean a B24 Spider, you're talking about a $400k car; even if you mean the B24 Convertible, you're still talking about a car that's $175k on a bad day. Theoretically, a resto project would be less. But restored cars are now so valuable that any project will be quickly snapped up for a professional restoration. So I'm not even going to start on the B24, except to note that Fantasy Junction wants $225k for their Convertible. And at that level, asking a few questions on the Alfa BB isn't going to get you where you need to go.
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09-21-2009, 03:02 PM
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I haven't seen the FZ car in the flesh, and I don't have a good excuse because I'm at most five miles from it. Regardless, for the money it seems to me a reasonable car as a driver, prepped for spirited use.
If you look at the FZ fee schedule, it cannot have made sense for this car to have been there as long as it has unless it's an in-house car (they have Lancia nuts working there). For a car of this value, FZ charges 12% of the sales price plus $200/mo to sell it. Just in one year, that represents $2400 storage/advertising plus $2880 sales fee. That's a fifth of the cost of the car, assuming it's been there one year, and I think it's been there a lot longer than that.
All that said, I'd think they'd want it out of there by now and would listen to a reasonable offer. I bought a Giulia TI 1300 from a similar dealer in Boston this summer; after dropping the price by a third over many months, and many rounds on ebay with no sales, they just wanted it gone and took an offer that was slightly over half their original price.
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11-05-2009, 02:00 PM
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