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From Stefan Dierkes' post on Ferrari chat:
I a newsletter dated 14th Oct. 2006 www.gretaemme.it wrote:
"L'Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione motorizzata col V8 Maserati ha già raggiunto e superato i cinquecento ordini. Il tetto produttivo della vettura fissato appunto a 500 unità sarà ritoccato?"
I translated with Altavista's Babelfish translator to:
"The Romeo Alpha 8C Competition motorized with the V8 Maserati has already caught up and exceeded the five hundred orders. The productive roof of the fixed car exactly to 500 units will be ritoccato?"
That means that all 500 of the 8C coupes have now been officially sold, and they may make even more!
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10-15-2006, 11:17 AM
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few more for 250.000 EUR ;-)
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10-15-2006, 12:05 PM
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in a way that would be cool, making more.
However, if here in holland you ordered one, also on basis of exclusivity, because AR has stated 'only 500' , and then AR decides to another 250, I'd be pissed off or would want money back.
Because it wouldn't be as exclusive as you were told it to be.
Right?
Dangerous game for AR.
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10-15-2006, 04:06 PM
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I am sorry but i cannot see why should we have another $200.000 (or so) supercar to choose from. I cannot also find any clue that the 8C have something to offer to the automotive future in terms of design or technology. As for the design it seems like a ghost of the past or better a puzzle of the glorious Alfas of the past. A bit 33 stradale here, a bit of TZ there etc, etc.
As for technology i cannot either find anything to convince me that this is not an Alfa badged Maserati but a real Alfa.
The new 8C sadly is really "common" in terms of technology and has nothing new to offer in terms of design.
Sadly too, the new Audi R8 will be a bag of advanced technology... Who could wait for something like that let's say 40-50 years ago? 
For a limited production Alfa i would wait for a more extraordinary car than that. It is really beautiful but i think that it's is a marketing production used for boosting the return of Alfa in the US. Until the next outing i will stick to Ferrari!
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10-15-2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tubolare Zagato
I am sorry but i cannot see why should we have another $200.000 (or so) supercar to choose from. I cannot also find any clue that the 8C have something to offer to the automotive future in terms of design or technology. As for the design it seems like a ghost of the past or better a puzzle of the glorious Alfas of the past. A bit 33 stradale here, a bit of TZ there etc, etc.
As for technology i cannot either find anything to convince me that this is not an Alfa badged Maserati but a real Alfa.
The new 8C sadly is really "common" in terms of technology and has nothing new to offer in terms of design.
Sadly too, the new Audi R8 will be a bag of advanced technology... Who could wait for something like that let's say 40-50 years ago? 
For a limited production Alfa i would wait for a more extraordinary car than that. It is really beautiful but i think that it's is a marketing production used for boosting the return of Alfa in the US. Until the next outing i will stick to Ferrari!
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Bro I like Ferrari But Remember this.. ALFA ROMEO MADE FERRARI without Alfa Romeo Ferrari wouldnt be this car Alfa Romeo 8c is just a jump back to the olden days where Mr. Enzo Ferrari raced his suped up Alfa Romeos and swept the competition. To me Ferrari in terms is Alfa Romeos Young Strong Son born from the great Alfa Romeo. This car is one great hit to bring the great history of such a great Marque.
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10-15-2006, 09:31 PM
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Denny,
Thats a very romantic way to look at things but the Alfa Romeo that made Ferrari is not the Alfa Romeo of today. Alfa has no young strong sons. Its parent is Fiat and right now Alfa is not mature enough to yeild any offspring. Even so, yes, the 8C appears to be a hit...and I am very impressed with it!
Turbolare Zagato,
When you speak of the technology of the 8C as "common" are you comparing it to the common technology found in Ferarris? Because the last time I checked, a lot of Ferrari technology sits in the 8C courtesy of Maserati.
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10-16-2006, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny164l
Bro I like Ferrari But Remember this.. ALFA ROMEO MADE FERRARI without Alfa Romeo Ferrari wouldnt be this car Alfa Romeo 8c is just a jump back to the olden days where Mr. Enzo Ferrari raced his suped up Alfa Romeos and swept the competition. To me Ferrari in terms is Alfa Romeos Young Strong Son born from the great Alfa Romeo. This car is one great hit to bring the great history of such a great Marque. 
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You are extremely romantic and no need for that these days ( am i the one who tell this? ) Marketing is stronger than romance today my friend!
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10-16-2006, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tubolare Zagato
Sadly too, the new Audi R8 will be a bag of advanced technology... Who could wait for something like that let's say 40-50 years ago? 
For a limited production Alfa i would wait for a more extraordinary car than that. It is really beautiful but i think that it's is a marketing production used for boosting the return of Alfa in the US. Until the next outing i will stick to Ferrari!
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I dont see any groundbreaking technology in Audi, it has alu/magnesium body but its still heavier than Alfa. Other techs it has magnaride type suspension same as in Ferrari 599 or Chevrolet Corvette and direct fuel injection. One pity is that Alfa has to use lower power engine than Maseratis and Ferraris, when this engine is put on Ferrari I think power will be well over 500 hp.
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10-16-2006, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Vsix
I dont see any groundbreaking technology in Audi, it has alu/magnesium body but its still heavier than Alfa. Other techs it has magnaride type suspension same as in Ferrari 599 or Chevrolet Corvette and direct fuel injection. One pity is that Alfa has to use lower power engine than Maseratis and Ferraris, when this engine is put on Ferrari I think power will be well over 500 hp.
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The new R8 is how the modern Alfa 8C should be. It's a car designed, developed and constructed after the huge experience of Audi in motorsport. All the parts, all the technology within the R8 has a connection with the racing activity of the firm. R8 is a bit heavier than 8C cause its body is made of aluminum, not carbon as in the case of the 8C. And please don't tell me that carbon is a groundbreaking technology! LED headlights, bionics, modern design setting the future trends, aerodynamics (and not marketing-retro of course), turbine like toque from the high-reving engine, dry sump lubrication, magnetorheological shock absorbers, etc., etc...
Racng tradition, technology, modern design, this is how the 8C should be!
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10-16-2006, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tubolare Zagato
. And please don't tell me that carbon is a groundbreaking technology! LED headlights, bionics, modern design setting the future trends, aerodynamics (and not marketing-retro of course), turbine like toque from the high-reving engine, dry sump lubrication, magnetorheological shock absorbers, etc., etc...
Racng tradition, technology, modern design, this is how the 8C should be!
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well I dont see it that way, all that you say is old technology except led front headlights and design is quite ugly in front. Dont see it setting any future trends
maybe those led headlights will come other cars aswell. And if Ferrari/Maserati/Alfa doesnt have racing tradition who has....
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The bottom line is that the 8C doesn't matter! It is just a showpiece for Alfa, but the general car buying public, for the most part, doesn't even know it exists, much less cares about any car costing that kind of money.
Alfa needs to return to it's 1950s and 1960s tradition of making lightweight, adequate power, superb handling coupes, spiders and berlinas at a competitive price, to have any real success.
Qute frankly, at this time, and in this market, FIAT might have a better chance of selling a $15,000-$25,000 car here than Alfa selling a $40,000-$60,000 car!!!
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Fiat is selling a 15-25k car here, it's called Suzuki SX-4, and is designed by Guiargio... Oh sorry it's a Suzuki.
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Originally Posted by dretceterini
The bottom line is that the 8C doesn't matter! It is just a showpiece for Alfa, but the general car buying public, for the most part, doesn't even know it exists, much less cares about any car costing that kind of money.
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this is just all wrong, that's pretty much all I can say about that.. maybe the good Dr. will take a few deep breaths and realize how important real, accessible (to the lucky few) showpieces are, in any market, and take back all that nonsense.
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Alfa needs to return to it's 1950s and 1960s tradition of making lightweight, adequate power, superb handling coupes, spiders and berlinas at a competitive price, to have any real success.
Qute frankly, at this time, and in this market, FIAT might have a better chance of selling a $15,000-$25,000 car here than Alfa selling a $40,000-$60,000 car!!!
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105's were competively priced.. not from the period magazine ad's i've seen.. but hey, they were gorgeous too.
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