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Something in General
Alfa Brera------4/Z4,CLK/SLK,TT
Alfa Brera V6-----Porsche Cayman/Cayman S
Alfa Brera GTA----Porsche Carrera 4S
Alfa Spider----TT/SLK/Z4
Alfa Spider V6---- Porsche Boxster
Alfa Spider GTA---Porsche Carrera 4S Cabrio
Alfa 8c Competizione----F430 CS,911 GT2
Maserati Spyder '5000'------SL55AMG/911 turbo/911 turbo cabrio/V8 Vantage/V8 Vantage Volante
Maserati 5000GT------DB9/M6/CL55 AMG
Alfa 169 V6------------MB CLS350
Alfa 169 V8 & GTA-----MB CLS500/CLS AMG/Porsche Panamera
Maserati Quattroporte------Jaguar XJR/BMW 750i/750Li/MB S500/S500L
Maserati Quattroporte V12----Bentley Continental Flying Spur
Maserati MC12 ----Enzo Ferrari/F60(2007),Carrera GT,SLR
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03-23-2005, 04:20 PM
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sakiss, where did this info come from and/or how did you figure it out (ie are they all similar price range, performance, what...)
just curious b/c it's very interesting
....oh and sean how bout we split it, i'll get the car here from April-Sept and you can have it Oct-Mar
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Where did you find those photos? It looks like it is for sale in some showroom... even though I know it isn't.
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Alfa Brera------4/Z4,CLK/SLK,TT
Alfa Brera V6-----Porsche Cayman/Cayman S
Alfa Brera GTA----Porsche Carrera 4S
Alfa Spider----TT/SLK/Z4
Alfa Spider V6---- Porsche Boxster
Alfa Spider GTA---Porsche Carrera 4S Cabrio
I just don't see how it is possible to compare ANY Porsche to an Alfa. Like I said before, as much as I'd like to think that Alfa Romeo is a company on par with Porsche, its just not true anymore. If an Alfa costs as much as a porsche on a showroom floor, the Alfa is simply not worth it. In terms of performance, all Porsches are RWD; all Alfas are FWD and that should end the performance debate right there. Today, an Alfa Romeo is a car that I would buy if I didn't have money for a Porsche.
BTW, has anybody else ever heard the phrase;
"An Alfa Romeo is a poor mans Porsche and a Porsche is a poor man's Ferarri"
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05-25-2005, 10:59 AM
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Alfa Romeo will present a new Concept in Pebble Beach of California in 3-4 August.The official return of the milanese firm in north america will be in 2007.
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05-25-2005, 11:37 AM
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...The official return of the milanese firm in north america will be in 2007.
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Hmmmm, I haven't heard THAT before... 
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05-25-2005, 11:41 AM
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Notice the radio is in the "Milano Spot" 
Lovely car though. I'll take two. |
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At this point I'll have to see it to believe it. Today, I consider Alfa the auto company that always cries wolf when it speaks of re-entering the American market.
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Hell no.....FIAT is for ever claiming that they will catapult Alfa Romeo into Europe’s
Premier League of car manufacturers. FIAT had announced they would fit the 164
with V8 and V10 engines and with rearwheel drive. The Nord TS would get a 16V or
else three valve head, laminar flow head etc. and they are allways playing with the idea of a grand return to rear wheel drive just to keep the interest up in their products. We have seen cars like the Proteo, Nuvola etc. that didn’t make production. The 8c will not go into production either
The truth is, Alfa has been looking for one last big push for the past 15 years.
The styling of the 156 has been cracked and the new-generation cars need fit, finish and reliability which is now Alfa’s biggest challenge. That, along with the need for a massive improvement in dealer back-up and to shift buyer prejudice. Alfa absolutely owned the sport sedan market. But it abdicated that market to BMW. As a result, it now finds itself crowded out of the market it invented, slugging it out with much better financed companies who are producing much better products.
Alfa Romeo is an also-ran but not in the premium market. The market value of maintaining Alfa’s unique name and image seem to be low. They cannot sparse the resources to do so. They would have to make more expensive cars of which they sell even fewer or they cam stay in business with Fiat's Lancia model. They need to sell 300.000 Alfa’s annually at least to
become a premier brand and they can develop once again their own technology in the best
Alfa Romeo tradition. Fiat acquisition still is a catastrophe for the historic Alfa Romeo.
The study model 8C is a way of boosting Alfa’s reputation but surely no one is taking Alfa Romeo seriously when they seem to play with the thought of making the 8C.
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Finally,Alfa Romeo will present in 21 August at Pebble Beach of California the 8c flying Star which is a new spyder supercar based on 8c mechanics.Alfa's back!
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08-02-2005, 06:54 AM
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Are they going to build it though? I don't want another concept car that will end up in their museum - they have enough of those already.
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21 August Pebble beach of California
http://www.pebblebeachconcours.net/Alfa.htm
Derived from the Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione, the 8C Spider is purely and essentially a thoroughbred sports car in the traditional Alfa Romeo spirit; it offers sophisticated engineering, a sporty yet elegant shape, and strictly two-seat accommodation.
Created at the Centro Stile Alfa Romeo, the 8C Spider expresses all that is most precious in the company’s heritage.
The low and aggressive front or the face of the car is characterised by the classical Alfa Romeo triptych—the central triangular “scudetto” flanked by horizontal “moustaches.” The lateral view of the car underscores its compactness and its classical mechanical layout, with longitudinally, front-mounted engine and rear-wheel-drive. The car is sure-footed on its prominent wheels, placed in the four corners. The “coda tronca” short tail with generous round taillights, typical for an Italian sports car, adds to the purposeful, dynamic image of the 8C Spider.
The interior design reflects the same philosophy; the cockpit’s non-compromised ergonomics, style, and choice of materials concentrate on one goal only: the ultimate driving pleasur |
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