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Old 10-05-2006, 12:13 PM
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Not to confuse threads, but to the good Dr., the upcoming 149 sounds like the car youve been demanding for awhile, and it may borrow styling cues from the 8c... I think Alfa knows what its driver's want, but making the 8C a reality has really put Alfa Romeo in the mindsets of a lot of people, even my friend who doesnt even know Alfas has heard about the 8C...

The only thing that does bother me is all of us probably think of Alfa as our secret treasures, and the 8C will surely be owned by big wigs who dont care much about the brand, but when I see a 612, or murcielago, i think pretty much the same thing, it doesnt stop us from admiring the cars even if theyre just out of reach for some of us...
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:44 PM
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Not to confuse threads, but to the good Dr., the upcoming 149 sounds like the car youve been demanding for awhile, and it may borrow styling cues from the 8c... I think Alfa knows what its driver's want, but making the 8C a reality has really put Alfa Romeo in the mindsets of a lot of people, even my friend who doesnt even know Alfas has heard about the 8C...

The only thing that does bother me is all of us probably think of Alfa as our secret treasures, and the 8C will surely be owned by big wigs who dont care much about the brand, but when I see a 612, or murcielago, i think pretty much the same thing, it doesnt stop us from admiring the cars even if theyre just out of reach for some of us...
I agree. The only thing I am questioning is how much the 149 will weight, but a 149GTA looks to be a possability.

Certainly the 159 and Brera are overweight, and I don't see Alfa as able to get a car down to under 3000-3200 pounds or so.....and at that weight, I would want something with closer to 300 horsepower...but still at the $25,000 to $30,000 price tag. I am sure that the technology exists to build a 2000-2500 pound small sedan and meet the safetry regulations; I'm just not sure at what price to the consumer.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:53 PM
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I would speak to someone at Maserati of North America. I do not know if they have actually set up the seperate division Alfa Romeo of North America as yet on an official basis.
My brother went to his Ferrari / Maserati dealer but they hadn't heard anything yet. He placed the order for an 8c and if the Maserati dealership turns out to be the place the order the 8c in the US, my brother is number 1 on the list (in the New York state). As you can imagine I hope he will succeed
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:32 PM
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So when is your brother inviting us all up?
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:53 PM
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Anyone seen some real footage of it on the roads doing real driving?
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:16 PM
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Hans awsome!!!
Please let him know about the BB. You Know we all want to hear about his new Alfa 8c
And glad we made it through this thread Guys!!!!
I Hope we all see the shinning light of Alfa Happeness That I feel seeing us post about the car again.
Dr Stu, I hear you on a low LBs. 250 Hp Alfa. I also think as stated, its good to have this big splash 8c car to make folks go Wow. And I thank You Dr for your patience in deciphering my posts. I know my writing grates on you. My wife also.....
I have enjoyed your writings for decades. Do you write for any Alfa stuff now days?
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:55 PM
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My brother went to his Ferrari / Maserati dealer but they hadn't heard anything yet. He placed the order for an 8c and if the Maserati dealership turns out to be the place the order the 8c in the US, my brother is number 1 on the list (in the New York state). As you can imagine I hope he will succeed
I would have your brother call Maserati of North America directly, rather than trying to work through a dealer.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:05 PM
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Hans awsome!!!
Please let him know about the BB. You Know we all want to hear about his new Alfa 8c
And glad we made it through this thread Guys!!!!
I Hope we all see the shinning light of Alfa Happeness That I feel seeing us post about the car again.
Dr Stu, I hear you on a low LBs. 250 Hp Alfa. I also think as stated, its good to have this big splash 8c car to make folks go Wow. And I thank You Dr for your patience in deciphering my posts. I know my writing grates on you. My wife also.....
I have enjoyed your writings for decades. Do you write for any Alfa stuff now days?

You don't bother me one bit; especially compared to some of the nut cases here

I really haven't done much Alfa writing for about 5 years or so. I am actually more interested in "etceterinis" (small displacement Italian sports-racers, such as Siata, Stanguellini, Nardi, Moretti, etc.) than Alfas. I never really specialized in Alfa, as I am also interested in all the great marques of the 30s through 50s, especially the obscure ones such as Bucciali

IMO, the best Alfa "journal" is Het K, from Holland. A bit difficult read, as it is only in Dutch, but still superb, just for the photos.

As to small lightweight coupes, Mazda is coming out with a MazdaSpeed version of the Mazda 3 coupe, and it will have 260 hp, for around $25,000 all taxes included. I hope the Alfa 149GTA winds up being in a similar price range, and not $60,000, or it isn't going to sell all that well. BMW is a "known quantity" and Alfa is not, at least here in the US.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:07 PM
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Anyone seen some real footage of it on the roads doing real driving?
No, but I sat in one of the prototypes at a show in Paris circa 9/2004. Now, it were only in a price range I could afford...
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Old 10-05-2006, 07:13 PM
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Anyone seen some real footage of it on the roads doing real driving?
This promo video shortly shows the 8C in action. Unfortunately, it's only about 30 seconds long.

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Old 10-05-2006, 11:03 PM
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This promo video shortly shows the 8C in action. Unfortunately, it's only about 30 seconds long.

The complete can be downloaded from the 8c website (www.8c.alfaromeo.com)

Or directly with this link:
http://www.8c.alfaromeo.com/video/Alfa_8c_video.zip
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Old 10-06-2006, 05:24 AM
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MM I don't know, I've got a sneaking suspicion this is totally CGI
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Old 10-06-2006, 05:27 AM
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whoa but while I was there I found this
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:36 AM
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For a light weight car for 25 000, is it really possible? If it is a 4cyl, you need a turbo to have like 250hp. I don t think Alfa have the 4cyl as Honda have with the s2000. A v6 will be too heavy. Than if you go lighter yuo need aluminum frame and carbon or composite panels but carbon prices go up everyday. So i don t think it will be possible. The only Alfa that look light weight is the Diva but i don t think it ll go under 30 000us
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