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Old 07-02-2009, 03:39 PM
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Come on, bugger all. The point is money. Really. We currently have 13 Bertone Coupes in the showroom. All original. Unmolested, unmodified. Unwelded. Priced from €15K to euro 40K for the very best , just sold, example.
So if they are SO rare, if they are SO special, how come you guys don't show up and PURCHASE the things? We can sell all the rare Ferrari's we can get our hands on. It's the Ferrari collectors now buying our very best Sprint GTs and first series 1750 because they realise the cars are fun, honest, cool to drive and worth every penny. Yet everyone seems to think they are too expensive! Like I said.. Money!
I don't see any of you people out here, not on the mailbox, nothing. Yet we are out there, we can be found, we have the totally perfect cars.
We do what Max does too, albeit with an Historical Rally point of view. Sometimes using parts from Max. (we make our own stabilisers, springs, etc) If that is what the customer wants, fine.
we have a large stock of 'project'cars in the back , about 20 or so, from Giulia TI to Sprint Veloce. I am currently disposing of several to make some space. marketed them locally. No takers. How about a '73 GT1300 junior, body is perfect, only welded in rear arches and wheel/door panels. Totally straight, silver (AR728) .
To be sold without engine / trans and interior for 6K euro. Paint is NEW, not one mile driven. Yet no takers even for 6K. Some come off your high horses, there are plenty of cars, no sweat. We have over 50 105 series in the shop at Maranello . Max, if you need project cars, LHD, just drop over. I've a 1750 first series, a 2nd series, the silver 1300, several 1600 in various states. Several Scalino's of all types. All project cars. Also as many Giulia's as you might possibly want. (TI Super replica anyone..)
Most cars do not require any welding.
what WE do not require are people who REALLY want one and then are willing to pay at the most 3K for a freshly painted, totally rust free rolling body. Get real!
I totally agree with what Max and the Alfaholics team is doing. Hell, I PERSONALLY am doing the same thing. There are as many cars out there as you could possibly want, not just at our shop. If I start travelling ONLY the dutch internet I am sure to find 200 cars any day. No big deal.
what most, not all of you people, are actually complaining about is not the AVAILABILITY of cars, but but in how far those people CAN AFFORD the available cars. It so happens we like to build them PERIOD modified and we go a loooooooong way for that. like finding Borrani Bimetal wheels, period race seats, mirrors, engine mods etc, so that it would be as if a late '60s man-about-town would buy a GT1300, and then go shopping all over Italy for goodies. Max' guys are more of a modern upgrade version. Like the pictured car: I HATE those oil catch tanks. I use a period military aluminium water bottle/ canister for example. or fabricate. So much cooler.
No way, the cars are out there. our customers know that. Some have several, one original, one modified. Whatever. Just like Daytona's. There are plenty out there. I know of several, we had three, (two original Spiders) in the shop at one time last month. Two of them for sale, the third also if enough money paid. Want a Daytona?
Give us a call. Can't afford one, like me? Buy something else. (like me...)
Want a TI Super? One was sold last month, in a jiffy. Did one of you guys offer cash? Nope. it went to a collector who already has 7....
As a last remark: Andrew Stevens: You CAN restore a 105 economically. We do. Totally. We start with a 100% body. We then do EVERYTHING. The only point is that it then costs 40000 Euro. But we DO sell those cars. Because there really are people who realise that it really only pays to go that way.
One really REALLY last remark: Max: Go for it boy. It's a business too, besides just a passion for the cars. You and me both, we have to eat off it...And nothing better than to eat from doing what one loves to do.

Rik
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