05-16-2008, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by usatrade
Jaguars are a bit like Alfa Romeos. their "bad" reputation came only from the bad so called mechanics who worked on them.
As I said, I was a dealer, on the East Coast, for ,any brand names and we had FAR more problems with the BMW than we ever had with the Jags.
But again, here we are in the USA, and the smallest "thing" with a jaguar turns out into a nightmare when a blown V12 BM because of overheting (chronic problem) is only a minor problem !
I know I am going to generate again full of angry, nasty, remarks about this but it is again the truth. Do not tell mùe that BMW's do not have problems with water pumps, distribution systems, raer axle problems, and many more.
And again, I should not compare the "problems" in the USA vs those in Europe
Can somùeone (or many of you) cvan tell me when I look at Craigslist, Ebay or local newspaper adverts so many cars (regardless of brand name or origin) do advertise " "rebuilt transmission" "rebuilt engine" on cars less than 100 K miles ? Specially when cars here are NEVER driver really hard, regardless of what you say. accelerating from 0 to 60 at trafic lights or hitting (sometimes) 95 MPH on a freeway does not but a car that fast.
Claude
(Expecting againg sevaral firing squads here :-))
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Ready aim FIRE........
Bmw is another post. We had a few of these back in the 70's, one caught fire from the electricals and the other cost a fortune to keep running if it did. Both where Alpina's E12, total nightmares, BMtroublyou. I think they are still having problems to this day but obviously much better now made in the US. But I am not up on those cars as I would never own one anyway.
I think you hit it on the nail for the most part claude. This is exactly why the 164 has a bad rep as well.
Mechanic's!!!
There is another shop here in Phoenix who refuses to work on 164's!
Why you ask? Because a lot of the time they have to fix botched jobs from other mechanics and to tell you the truth some of the older guys cannot deal with the complexity of the car and some of the harder items to remove.
This guy in Phoenix HATES 164's and ends up sending them all to me which is fine by me.
Now to your next question about rebuilt this or that on cars here in the US under 100K because we don't drive hard here!
How long have you been in this Country Claude?
If you have been in this country for any length of time and been on the road you do see how these American's drive right? Don't get me wrong it is a good question and all I can say is this. Those vehicles with rebuilt this or that, STAY AWAY FROM!!! PERIOD!
The owners of most of these cars have beat the living poop out of them, did not maintain them properly, just complete improper use, maintenance and again THE MECHANIC!!!!
It is hard to find that GOOD mechanic these days. Once you do you stick with them. For example. My father in law is teacher at Universal Technical institute here in Phoenix. He has so many ASE and other Cert's under his belt and 40+ years experience with engines and more. Now, the kids he teaches are far from sharpest knife in the drawer! Now, all these kids are our future technicians for our vehicles. They offer VW(VAG)AUDI, JAG, PORSCHE, BMW, and more. I have been there for a few courses myself to keep up with new technology. These kids learning to be mechanics are just not with it enough to be able to diagnose problems with cars at all. Out of 30 students per class you may have 1 that will make a good mechanic, sometimes as my father in law tells me, none of them will make it.
Now that said, there are plenty of great mechanics out there but this is KEY if you use checkbook mechanic. If you do the work yourself well I guess it's all your fault then,. 
I think that regardless if a good mechanic or not, some cars are just a pile.
Some jags, BMW,s Alfa's, audi's, Austins, Rovers, VW's, fords, chevy's and more are in this catagory.
Anways, you have a point for sure and I agree with you 100%.
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