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Old 04-24-2008, 11:41 AM
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Alfa 164

I'm not looking for a "flame war" either. While the Berlina and the 164 cannot be compared, I'm going to do it anyway. The 164 is upscale with creature comforts well beyond my Berlina. But I love my Berlina nonetheless. For me the 164 offers more technology and styling, is comfortable, and it should be based on when it was produced, over the previous Alfa sedans; and it also solves my personal issue with the Milano. I find the Milano styling notchy, which is not terribly appealing to me. Furthermore, I get claustrophobia because of the front windshield pillar configuration which makes me feel like I need the window down to allow the fresh air to blow in my face, either as a passenger or driver, to keep me from heaving.

Pat and I owned most of the U.S. sedan models AFAIK except the Milano and 164. My favorite is the Berlina, his was either the Giulia Super or the TI, but I also found the Alfetta sedans very good every day drivers with children.

Having said all that, these were Pat's feelings that he expressed in From Portello to Arese:
"Many years ago, I proposed that history would blur the distinctions between the Giulia and Giulietta and make all the 4-cylinder cars a single identity, differing only in horsepower and displacement. In the same spirit, I propose that Fiat’s takeover of Alfa will be seen as the end of the marque, and the Milano, with all its shortcomings, as the last 'real' Alfa..."
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