[twoliterlover]

Not all 164 auto trannys models are identical. The 1964 and later, the LS Automatic tranny with its EIS (ice) option (Q is only 5 speed?), is far more advanced that the one for B or L (again, perhaps only I have turned my 164 auto into car that looks like an S). But both a ZF transmissions made in Switzerland. While I am sure there are some of you who enjoy fooliing with auto transmissions, I pale at the prospect. BESIDES, I have had the privilege since 1984 of representing and trading services with a full service transmission rebuilding factory in Auburn, Washington, that has done the factory warranty repair exchange for BMW, SAAB, etc. (including the infrequent Alfa Romeo) on the west coast for many years. They receive a container collected from all over the far east from Taiwan every month or so to rebuild. They have always kindly redone my friends transmissions, but I've never asked them to do any Alfa transmissions except for me. Still, if someone wants to buy a rebuilt transmission for Alfa Romeo 164 (early or LS) I believe I can get you a deal. They did a wonderful job on my Montreal (also a ZF, but not an automatic) as well as the automatic for my 1991 164B (now an S). As a special gift to me they even took that sideways monster out and put the rebuild back in. I think it runs better than the original, but I only got the car after it was totalled, so I can't honestly say that. I had managed to drive it two years before it went bad, and it only failed then because it split a hose and I ran it out of flud. I am not sure they would think I was doing them a favor in getting them more Alfa automatics to repair, because they let me know mine was not enjoyable. But they are just ZF ransmissions with different mounting arrangements, and they have full testing and checking equipment to be sure their work comes up to ZF's highest factory warranty quality standards. Can't continue such work year after year if not up to snuff. So, call me if you would like to have a rebuild exchange at some decent price. I checked, and they tell me they have one early model sitting half finished right now, missing a kick down. They will take that off the core that gets sent in if it is still good. Otherwise they warned me I will have to find them one for causing them such trouble, and they will start teasing me about my FIATS. Jay