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Old 07-03-2007, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nzkiwiguy View Post
attempt to build a motor so would buy something already in place. wanting that bit more i would go for a low modified TS, so i could have reliability all the way through the drivetrain.
There's a lot to be said for doing this and I certainly won't try to take anything away from it. My impression is that this is what most people who make the conversion are doing. It makes very good sense to make this kind of change if, for instance, you have a worn out or broken Nord motor and you live in a place where you can acquire good 75TS motors for scrap prices (at one point they were reported as being 75 pounds complete in the UK).

That's kind of a no brainer regardless of whether you are paying someone to do the work or doing it on your own. It's a great way to pick up an easy 30hp and lots better milage. Moreover, if you look at what it costs to modify a Nord motor to produce 150hp, you'll probably end up paying more than the TS conversion would cost.

But the economics change here in the States. Since we never imported TS 75's, bringing these motors in from abroad is expensive. If you intend to ship in a TS motor, rebuild/modify as necessary, and then pay someone to install it in your Alfa, you are looking at some pretty big money. If you alaready have a reasonably fast (say 150hp) Nord motor in your car that works well, making this conversion doesn't make a lot of sense---unless of course you really, really want to and then nothing else matters.

In my case, since I already have a modified Nord motor in storage and the parts required to build a second sitting on shelves, I found myself looking at trading one 150hp motor for another 150hp motor. The more I thought about it, the less sense it made and then my suspicions were more or less confirmed after I made a couple of discrete inquires here on the forum.

Even doing all the work myself doesn't really make economic sense to me because, as I was told by someone who knows about both motors, the TS is very similar to the Nord motor in a great many respects: it just makes more hp in stock form than a stock Nord motor does.

On the other hand, what is extremely interesting to me is Max's 198hp TS motor that he talks about on the Alfaholics site. This is a "street" and track-day motor and not a full-tilt racing motor. It runs on carburetors and pump gas which means that doing an install would be dead easy. Here in the States, that kind of option makes a lot more sense to me. If you are going to go to the trouble of importing a TS motor, why not go ahead and build it into a 198hp screamer that will also take your kids to school and not terrify the neighbors.

I'm hoping Max will tell us a little more about what he did to build that motor.

The world wants to know Max!!
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