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Old 07-02-2007, 09:02 PM
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... EVERYONE can go out and buy all the best internals to build a screamer (from one shop or several), if the tuning shop engine builder is worth his salt then the home builder will never attain the same power (perhaps reliability also) but the home builder makes this choice because they WANT to build their own engine. Some people just don't want to build their own engine and want the very best delivered to them to install, so they chose to pay to have the best built for them.
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Hi Max:

I was kind of hoping you'd lend you expertise to the discussion. I had your 198hp TS "street" motor in mind when I began wondering about the real world differences between a well modified 2L Nord motor and a stock, or relatively so, TS. As I mentioned, I have a reasonably powerful 2L in storage. With a little tweaking it'll probably produce 160-165hp. Since I have that motor and can relatively easily build others like it, it really doesn't make a lot of sense (at least to me) to import a stock TS motor to Texas and put it in my car.

I am exactly the kind of person you describe in the above. I WANT to build my own engine (whole car, in fact). I also have absolutely no illusions about being a professional (although I am fortunate to have friends are professionals who'll help me stay out of trouble). I certainly don't think I can build a motor as powerful as one of yours but I'm pretty confident that I can build a good one. Is one of my heads going to be as good as a Bob Dove head or a Mike Sperry head? Nope. But, on the other hand, there's a lot about old Alfa's that's pretty finite. There's a wealth of information available (and especially here on the Alfabb) and lots of people willing to help. That's always been the case with the Alfa community and that, for me, is one of the main reasons this is so enjoyable.

So. Replacing a modified Nord motor with a stock TS doesn't sound like something I'd end up doing. On the other hand, building something along the lines of your 198hp TS motor is definitely something I'd like to do.

If you don't mind, I'd like to ask a question. Since the TS motor is apparently so similar to the Nord motor did your get the 198hp (on carbs, no less) through the normal cams, compression, head porting, big valves, ignition route? Can someone buying your parts build a street motor approaching that kind of output?

Thanks!
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