I might have some input that might or might not help?
and it goes along the Chapman's which seems to say some cars are better the others . well yea.. so what.
Lets take a chepo strut car very common any roll and that will tilt the tire no matter what. so stiffer car big big improvement.
now take a double A which as function we are. If the lengthes are right we can roll as much as we want and keep the tire flat. Which Alfas are knowen for great grip with soft springs. Even look at the gtv when it first came out the reviews even knocked it due to the amount of roll it had even when it out cornered all the other cars in the review. (aka othe other cars had to use stiffer springs and still did not do as well)
And I have to say my stock springs, and on a bumpy steet have let me stomp on a lot of other cars with the stiff springs as they bounce off the road. But I know if I went to a track the same cars with the stiff springs would stomp me.
And even with good flat tires with a lot of roll if I did a zigzag a car with less roll will be better off. or very quick turns. my spider is track stiff and if I do a quick zigzag it will respong instany. on the Milano every thing is slowed down. if I go in to a slow turn I think the Milano will kill the spider. but if I do a lot of quick stuff like zigzags the spider with the stiff springs give me the instant responce that the street springs do not. but if I just go into a lazy turn and see how may Gs I can pull I think they would be close and if anything I think the Milano might win.(I think I will have to try that some time)
so I gess I am getting at there is more then just grip. the spider stays the same after a break. The Verde goes from light oversteer to more oversteer if the breaks had been used as it compress the soft springs and that uncompress for some time giving extra front grip. I have to step on it then the weight will shift and the car will stick in the back. If the spings were stiff they would not be the masive grip change front to back.
And as stated above each car is different to start with. Some where I have imporved my front so I have overster but it will go away as long as I punch it so I like it that way. but I have stock springs and sway. Just a bit of poly bushes her and there. but it seem most stock are underster so my car seem to stick a bit better then most at the front. why??? it might have to do with a bit of frame stiffing at the front? when I got the car the front was in bad shape from jacking on the frame so I weled some steel there to give me good solid jack points. but I might have also inproved the front grip some as a side affect.
given on a other post where broke there. I think I might have just welded a weak spot by luck.
I put it there to have a jack point and to stop busting headers. and I have not cracked one after I added it.
It is not clear in the pic but the L goes back along the frame past the fire wall.(I bet I lost all my crumple zone....)
