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$600 'Fetta Sportiva series 1

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/ALFA_ROMEO/ALFETTA/details.aspx?PriceMax=7500&__Nne=20&__N=4294967249+0+443+834+285+257&Make=ALFA%20ROMEO&State=All%20States&silo=1003&state_id=0&distance=25&Cr=2&seot=0&__sid=110E0B13F336&R=1158253&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCount_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=45
 
#286 ·
:eek: that's just wrong

workmanship looks good though

still wrong but

without the intercooler, but with the wheels and ride height, it looks a bit like the infamous PROCAR :cool:
 
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#290 · (Edited)
im further than you james, but ill go and check it out.
dont mind the 74 model, it has familiar alfetta styling features in the dash which i am used too, like -the woodgrain trim , chrome ashtray, cig lighter etc .
someone told me 74 are worth less because they are contaminated with 116 parts .
it looks from the photos it has a lot of rust at the bottom of the doors. but where is the really bad stuff to watch out for on these models?
and to keep it simple is there a 105 thread that tells the things to watch out for in general?
 
#291 · (Edited)
im further than you james, but ill go and check it out.
i am after one and being the 74 model it has a familiar alfetta styling features in the dash which i like -the woodgrain trim , chrome ashtray, cig lighter etc .
someone told me 74 are worth less because some snobs reckon they were contaminated with 116 parts .
it looks from the photos it has a lot of rust at the bottom of the doors. but where is the really bad stuff to watch out for on these models?
and to keep it simple is there a 105 thread that tells the things to watch out for in general?
I'm on the Central Coast.... Bondi Junction is a good 2hrs from me..... would take a look but.....

anyway

below is a general list of things to look for which I copied and pasted from somewhere a long while back.... ... does contain some irrelevant info, but gives you a good idea of problem spots

General
This is intended to be a summary of what to check for when buying a Alfa Romeo 105/115 Giulia GT/GTV. It has been compiled from magazine articles, books, and my limited experience. The notes here are not intended to be a complete guide to buying a car, but to highlight particular aspects that are important with these models.
Ideally, have your potential purchase inspected by a reputable Alfa expert. Joining the local Alfa Romeo Owners Club (AROC) is a very wise move: not only are they a great source of helpful people but they can also be a good source of well maintained cars.
Because of the large range of models produced over the nearly 15 years of production it is difficult to give specific details for every model. I have tried to keep this relatively generic, so please excuse any generalisations which may not apply to all models.

Bodywork
Those who live in South Africa and California can relax for a moment, but for the rest of us poor unfortunates, here's the bad news....
Rust, rust, rust, rust..... These cars were poorly protected against rust when they were manufactured, and since even the youngest is now almost 20 years old it is not surprising that rust is a problem. They can and do rust almost anywhere, however some places seem to be the most "popular":
The panel below the front bumper (valance/apron depending on which country you live in!) can rust. Although this is not very structural there is an important crossmember behind it (under the radiator) which includes the mounting points for the front anti-roll bar. This box section crossmember is very prone to rust.
As with most cars, the rear of the front wings tends to fill with dirt and then rust. Unfortunately rust in this region tends to spread into the inner and outer sills, the door pillar, and also the floor. Assessment of the condition of this area is quite difficult since the rust can start in any or all of these places and spread into the others. The rear of the sills (in front of the rear wheels) can also rust, as can the bottom of the rear guards behind the wheels.
Always lift as much of the carpet as you can: the condition of the floorpan can be a good indicator as to the state of the rest of the car. The floor is constructed from a thin high tensile steel: once rusts starts it spreads quickly! The floorpan rusts around the rubber bungs in the front and rear footwells. If this is left untreated it can spread out into the sill areas at the front (including the jacking points) and into the base of the rear seat from the rear bungs. In severe cases rust in the front floors can spread up the firewall, and sometimes the floors can rust in the inner front corners (by the transmission tunnel). Check the floor in the region of the outer rear seat mounts: they suffer from fatigue loads which accelerates the rusting process. The floor can also rust around the outer front seat mounts if the doors leak water onto the carpet.
The bottom of the doors rust, as does the aperture around the door handles and around door mirror attachment points. Check around the front and rear screens, the grille below the windscreen, and in the spare wheel well. The small structural members down the sides of the boot at the rear can also rust. Bootlids can rust between the frames and the skins. Bonnets are usually okay: a rusty one can indicate that the rest of the car is (or was..) very bad.
Inspect the rear wheel arches carefully. These tend to rust around the edge, and can also provide evidence of a rear end accident. The cars are weak in the rear, and will typically bend at the arches if hit from behind. The rear valance can rust, but this should be easy to see. Rust can also occur along the base of the rear side windows
So much for the bad news... There are two bits of good news, the first being that most of the rust is not difficult to find if it is there. The other good news is that most of the rust areas are not too difficult to repair and reproduction panels or patches are available for most of the problem areas. Beware though: the cost of rust repairs to any car can get very scary!
Mechanical
The news on the mechanical side is definitely happier. The drivetrain and suspension are basically very long lasting, and many parts are the same or very similar to those used in the spider up until 1995.
The engines generally last well, the only real weak spot being a tendancy towards head gasket problems, particularly with the larger capacity versions. The usual problem is with oil and waterways leaking between each other or to the outside of the block. This is not difficult to repair, however running the engine with water in the oil can cause severe damage. Timing chains can get noisy but do not usually fail. The upper chain is easy to replace, however the lower chain is difficult to replace without removing the engine. A noisy lower chain is often an indication that the rest of the motor is worn. Oil leaks are reasonably common, particularly from the headgasket and the rear crankshaft seal.
Do the usual engine checks: does it smoke under hard acceleration (typically indicating worn rings/bores), or on the over-run (valve guides). The valve gear is often a bit rattly, particularly when it is cold. Exhaust valve guides are usually the first parts of the heads to wear.
The bottom end of the engines is very strong, and they should not normally have any oil pressure problems. If the oil pressure is low it is possible that a crankshaft oilway plug has come out. Unfortunately Alfa oil pressure gauges are notoriously inaccurate so it can be difficult to tell what is actually going on.
Carburettors can be Webers, Dellortos or Solexes (the least desirable). When set up properly the engines should idle smoothly and be very tractable (particularly the 1750 and 2000 cc models). Intake airleaks can cause idling problems.
[I don't feel qualified to comment on SPICA: can anybody contribute a few words??]
Gearboxes normally keep going for a long time, although weak second gear syncromesh is common. The boxes have a quirk with first gear syncro even when new: it works well changing down from second to first, but the syncromesh is poor when changing up from neutral to first when stopped. Either shift very slowly, or develop the habit of pulling the lever back to just touch fourth gear syncro before going into first (some people use second, but this has a hard enough life anyhow....). A bent reverse fork can cause jumping out of reverse. Clutches are the weakest part of the drivetrain: abuse can result in surface cracks in the flywheel.
The driveshafts on these cars are much less trouble than on the later 116 series transaxle cars. Check the front donut, the two universals, and the centre bearing but these are relatively easy to replace if needed. The real axles/diffs are very reliable. The only common problem is noisy rear wheel bearings. Worn suspension bushes in the rear suspension can cause twitchy handling. Check the trailing arms for cracks and rust.
The front suspension is basically reliable: the inner wishbone balljoints can get noisy (typically squeaky) if they get dry. Check the plates under the front springs for rust. The steering boxes wear on high mileage cars, but can be reshimed to remove excess slop. Steering boxes can leak oil.
Brakes vary depending on the model. Early cars had Dunlop systems which can be problematic and hard to get parts for. Later cars had ATE systems which are powerful and generally reliable, except for the twin servo systems which are difficult to bleed properly.
Interior
The quality of the interior trim was not great, and the cars can get tatty inside. Dashes normally crack, especially near the windscreen vents. Door trims suffer when people don't bother to replace the waterproof backing sheets. As with any car, seats rip along seams (apparently the seats on the 2000cc models were originally stitched with cotton, which tends to rot), and carpets end up with holes. If the door drain holes are not kept clean and/or door watershields are removed, water can come into the car from the bottom of the doors leading to rotted carpets and that dreaded rust..."
 
#293 ·
what about this one.

http://cracker.com.au/classifieds/sydney/used-cars/other-makes/245577469.aspx

beats spending $5000 on a fragile original one

at least you can drive it hard for your $$$$

you see, im used to buying a couple of suds or alfettas for a couple of hundred dollars each and thrashing them till they break and fixing them up better again.

can 105's handle that treatment without sending you broke?
 
#294 ·
Hmmm...if the car on cracker.com is as good as the seller says, why does he only want $8500 for it? It sounds more like a $15k car. Which makes me think there is money to be spent that he hasn't mentioned.
 
#296 ·
well the red alfetta sedan sold and so did the silver gtv2000 but within walking distance sits this one unsold for second week

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=280109674792&rd=1&rd=1

and its had the bodywork already done!!!
add an alfa 33 1.7 Ei for a doner car and for a couple of grand you have 100kw/800kg, or even keep it original is nice too
can someone buy it because everyday im tempted to click on "bid now"
and i really want to buy something different this time
 
#305 ·
The world must be off it's axis or the sunspots are rather bad at present. Carsales currently has at least 3 'Suds, some 90s and even a pair of 116 Giuliettas listed.
 
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#308 ·
100 bucks its cheap enough. Nothing I need off of it as most of it appears to be missing. I am glad I don't have the space for it.
 
#310 ·
First time I've ever seen a Giulietta Berlina for sale in Oz. Feel like going for a drive to have a look. You up for it Ben?:)

ALFA ROMEO 1960 GIULIETTA BERLINA TI 101.09

Needs a complete restoration but is completely all there. Hasnt been driven since 1973!

Looks like a fun backyard to explore judging by the Super in the background!
 

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#312 ·
Oi, what about the rest of us up here ? Don't we count. What am I chopped liver ? :D
 
#315 ·
Would the brake booster be original? I didn't think those hydrovac boosters were around then. It also has the blue colour we used to paint them when I worked as a brake mechanic for Repco and rebuilt heaps of them. If it isn't original then the guy isn't quite right when he says nothing has been altered in any way. Not that it matters of course.
 
#318 ·
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Has some race alfas......

Had a look at the 71 GTV recently as it is located nearby -
Comes with 2 sets of spare wheels (14 x 7 minilites and simmons wheels).
There's a crack in the manifold, 2nd gear synchro issues, it hasn't been lit up in almost two years, has signs of rust under the rear windscreen and surface rust in other normal areas as well.....
Plenty of spares come with the car but it's probably a bit overpriced IMO....
The blue spider on the site looks pretty neat....
 
#320 ·
The auction will be over by the 26th.
I asked if the reserve was reasonable but he dodged that question! Fair enough. It is in Pimpama which is more in between Brisbane and the Gold Coast.
 
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