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Old 02-09-2007, 03:07 PM
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Ken,
1) I am certain that once SCCA dropped the 1600 GTA from B Sedan, it was never reinstated. However, it was always allowed in Trans Am. I can't remember when it was outlawed. At Paul Spruell's website, there is a copy of the January, 1970 issue of The Alfa Owner providing details of the 1969 Runoffs. (That is the year Paul won the President's Cup for his win in G Production.) That year (1969), GTA Jr's took 1st, 3rd and 4th in C Sedan (A Mini took 2nd). There were no Alfa's listed in B Sedan results, so that tells me that the 1600 GTA was dropped from B Sedan by 1969. The thing to do is locate the results of the 1968 Runoffs and see if GTA's were listed in the results. That will tell you which year it was dropped from B Sedan ('68 or '69).

2) As far as Bruce Perry's GTA Jr's are concerned, I can provide details on them. I owned one of them. He bought a 1600 GTA street car off the showroom floor at Algar Enterprises in Pennsylvania. First, he did Solo 2 (autocross), then Solo 1, then Regional racing and then finally National racing in the car. As he progressed up the competition ladder, he added the factory competition pieces one part at a time, until it finally had pretty much all of the goodies (sliding block, etc). After rolling the car (either Nelson Ledges or Watkins Glen, I forget), he bought one of the two Amman/Rutherford GTA Jr's and listed his old car for sale in The Alfa Owner. I bought it from him. This was in '77 or '78, I'd say.

While I was at his shop in Bradford, PA to pick up the car, he showed me his new toy, the Amman/Rutherford car. It was trick. They had had Lee Dykstra go through the suspension, and it was all different stuff from the Autodelta setup. I remember Bruce telling me that his new car handled totally different from (and better than) his old car.

Bruce is/was a neat guy. After retiring from teaching, he and his wife would go to vintage races selling old car magazines. I would always see him each year at the Fall Festival at Limerock. I also remember it took him forever to sell that Amman/Rutherford car. I don't think he wanted too much. The market just wasn't hot like it is these days. And he just didn't want to give it away.

3) Regarding your car, right now I can't be much help. There was a guy back in the '70's who did the neatest posters of race cars (Paul Oxman). He did one of the Bobcor cars together (at Road Atlanta, I seem to remember, coming out of turn 5). They were both yellow, but neither car had the plastic GTAm-type fenders. I left that poster on the wall in the garage of a house I sold and moved out of. Man, I wish I had that poster today. When I get time, I will look through old race programs and pictures I took at races to see if I can find your car. Didn't John Murphy have a yellow wide-fendered GTA/GTA Jr? I seem to remember him racing the car at the Walter Middy Challenge at Road Atlanta in the late '80's.

Man, trying to recall all of this stuff from 20-30 years ago is really taxing my brain!

OldAlfaGuy
Oldalfaguy, thanks for the input.

1) In Canada we had B-Sedan and c-sedan run by CASC in the the early seventies for sure and most likely other years but I would have to check.


2) I last saw Bruce Perry at Watkins Glen in Sept 2005, still selling Magazines. He told me he had sold all of his Alfas. At one time I visited him and saw both his old Yellow Dog Garage in downtown Bradford as well as his home and "museum" on the outskirts. Either place was a car buff's heaven. Bruce sold me copies of the SCCA Trans/Am official results and several T/A race programs over the years as well as gifting me a copy of "The Stainless Steel Carrot". When Bruce sold the GTAj to New Zealand, (and you are correct the market was not in his favour and some of us North Americans lammented the car going so far afield,) I was able to purchase most of his spare parts that did not go with the car, and then later sold one of the spare GTAj blocks to the Kiwi buyer. I also later got Glass hood complete with race number, from Brian Shorey that I think he got from Bruce. I should check the number to see if it rigs a bell with any one.

You said Bruce's first GTA was converted to GTAj engine for c-sedan. I wonder what happened to the original GTA engine.

What happened to your GTA. Did It go to Michigan by any chance? Do you remember the serial number?

3) I have attached a picture of part of the Oxman Poster, I have the poster, it came with my GTA.

The plastic GTAj flares are thought to have been put onto #25 after the end of the 1972 Trans/am series when the car was preped for C-sedan, but by who?? Bobcor??

When you are looking through your race pictures and programs any Alfa Race pictures or entry lists would be greatly appreciated by many member of this BB as well as me.

The Yellow Murphy car, now on your left coast, is thought to have been the other RHD GTA that was at Bobcor with mine, 752507, in 1975. The story as I understand it is, it went to Mr Bergaman(sp) in Quebec, then to British Columbia, then to Jim Brown in Pacific NW of USA, then ??, then John Murphy.
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