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02-21-2007, 06:59 AM
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2600 SZ Conrero
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I'm looking for informations about 2600 SZ Conrero (VIN 856013).
In the book of Conrero, no informations about preparation of 2600 engine.
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02-21-2007, 07:18 AM
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I don't know exactly what modifications were done, but it is my understanding that a 2600 motor with high compression and radical camshafts, plus Weber 45DCOEs can produce around 280 horsepower at the flywheel
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02-21-2007, 10:48 AM
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Is this the same car that was for sale at Padova last year via a certain Belgian dealer?
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02-21-2007, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AllthingsZagato
Is this the same car that was for sale at Padova last year via a certain Belgian dealer?
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http://www.classicscars.com/alfa/2600sz/2600frame.html
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02-21-2007, 12:13 PM
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2600 SZ Patriarca s/n 856.034
Hi all,
the "Padova" SZ as well as the "classicscars.com" SZ are the same car with chassis number 856.034. Bonhams tried to sell it at their 2006 Monaco auction with no success. Seller then was Auto Classic of Moncalieri/Torino were the car is/was stored.
According to Auto Classic it was tuned/race prepared by Patriarca.
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Bjoern
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02-21-2007, 12:30 PM
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That clears that up then, I was not sure who the tuner was off the top of my head.
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02-21-2007, 01:07 PM
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The car whose allthingszagato speak is indeed 856.034. I think that Coys sell this car at the Padova Fiero (28 october 2006) for 47200 €.
It's a Patriarca tuned car ???
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02-21-2007, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dretceterini
I don't know exactly what modifications were done, but it is my understanding that a 2600 motor with high compression and radical camshafts, plus Weber 45DCOEs can produce around 280 horsepower at the flywheel
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02-21-2007, 04:46 PM
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TI Sup,
Do you own the car now?
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02-21-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ti Sup
I have a invoice of Conrero where I see 221,8 CV DIN at 6500 giri with indeed three Weber 45 DCOE-9 but none about camshafts.
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There is something I find peculiar about 856013, and that has to do with the fact that it is an early car. According to my records was the 9th car completed by Zagato and consigned to Alfa on 28-Jul-65. The Alfa sale date is shown as 11-Nov-65 to Soc. Francaise Alfa Romeo - Paris.
By comparison, 856014 (the 12th car completed) is recorded as being the Alfa Demonstrator car for giving the press test drives in Italy. Interestingly, this car was consigned to Alfa on 14-Sep-65 (two weeks later than 856013).
As I have been tracking 2600 SZ cars for a while now, and I would love to know what the engine number of this car is. I believe the engine number may also give us a hint about whether or not Conrero may have had his hands on it if it falls inside or outside the normal number range for these cars. Now, given that there seems to be some documentation (Conrero invoice), you can probably imagine how much I would love to see a copy of this document.
Such a document may answer the question, why a car that was sold to France had a Conrero engine, but no such claims exist for cars in Italy. It also may answer my question why there would be a Conrero engine in a 2600 SZ but no such claims exist for 2600 Sprints, which were raced successfully in various events during 1964 (pretty much a year earlier).
Either way, Conrero mystery aside, I'm glad to hear 856013 still exists and somebody is figuring out how to take care of it. I'll be happy to assist any owners of these cars. I'm traveling a fair bit during the next 6 weeks, but please feel free to contact me offline (preferably via e-mail through the AlfaBB messaging interface) and we can exchange some additional information with respect to these cars.
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02-22-2007, 08:55 AM
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Seems very strange to me that the car would be modified by Conrero, and then tuned by Patriarca....
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02-22-2007, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dretceterini
Seems very strange to me that the car would be modified by Conrero, and then tuned by Patriarca....
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02-22-2007, 09:38 AM
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As indicated further above, these are two different cars: 856013 (Conrero) and 856034 (Patriarca).
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My error....I was looking at post #5...
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02-22-2007, 02:31 PM
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TI Sup,
Do you own the car now?
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02-22-2007, 02:57 PM
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Indeed, the first registration of 856013 was 13 april 1966 ; owner : Raymond Sauveterre in Montpellier (France). Then in 1980 or 1985, Jean-Pierre Esquirol bought the car. I have bought this car from Jean-Pierre Esquirol and with the car, I have a copy of a invoice of Conrero dated the 29 october 1966 at the name of Raymond Sauveterre
The engine number is AR 00601*10034*
Thank you Ruedi for informations about my car. I send you via your e-mail a scan of the copy of the invoice. Unfortunatly, the quality is bad.
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